Transwoman in the changing room at school pool

Women have all kinds of crap thrown at us, and that doesn't make us demand the right to trample on anyone else's legitimate rights.

Dogs urinate on lampposts to mark what they claim as their territory. A man could make a similar point by simply walking into a women-only space and leaving, say, a hat there.

It's obvious to me that the kind of 40yr old transwoman that puts themself in this situation, is the kind I don't want to share a space with.

If she has/had a penis she is not a woman, and yes being born male makes her much more of a threat than a woman. When was the last time you heard of a lesbian raping a woman? A Swedish study found trans women were as likely to commit crime as men.

The researchers state:
‘male-to-females . . . retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was
true regarding violent crime.’
MtF transitioners were over 6 times more likely to be convicted of an offence than female
comparators and 18 times more likely to be convicted of a violent offence. The group had
no statistically significant differences from other natal males, for convictions in general or
for violent offending. The group examined were those who committed to surgery, and so
were more tightly defined than a population based solely on self-declaration.

Women have all sorts of crap thrown at them from morning to night, and go to women's swimming groups to escape it.

What nonsense. As I'm sure you well know, Noonecaresifyounamechange, almost all sexual assaults are committed by male people. The statistics also show that transwomen commit crimes at the same rate as other male people. Please tell us if you've ever heard reports of sexual assault or threatening behaviour by a lesbian towards other women or children in a changing room or toilet.

But assault isn't the main reason men have traditionally been kept out of women's changing rooms and toilets. Other offences such as exhibitionism are more common. Men have been caught illicitly filming women. For many women, simply having a man in the room while they are vulnerable eg when undressing is deeply stressful, for good reason.

So please don't pretend there is anything odd about the concern shown by PoolFloat and her mother.

Sorry, what's the risk?

I’m sorry but this is very mean spirited. She (he) put her swim hat in a locker in the changing room then left again?
look I am not a fan of trans activism or any of that stuff - but this person is still a human being who probably has all sorts of crap thrown at her from morning to night. She likes to go swimming, and used a locker briefly. I feel a bit sorry for her.

Does her being trans make her more of a threat than any other women?

let's rephrase that

Does him being a man make him more of a threat than women?

and the answer of course, is yes. Even before you get to the questions of privacy and dignity

why does a person who will be perfectly well aware that he is a man want to be in the women's changing rooms?

Re children, I'd anticipate the school is careful about students and public not swimming at the same time. That shouldn't be a problem.

However the women deserve privacy and dignity and same sex spaces to change in.
Women of particular faiths and ethnicities will be particularly disadvantaged by this, as will women with a trauma history.

Realistically though, the vast majority of women have been sexually assaulted or harassed in some way, and deserve spaces where they can feel safe.

Humans, like all mammals, instinctively sex people they come across. It happens without us thinking about it.

I think the reasons you’re finding it hard to word is because you’re wrong. The “person” is a women, who has ever right to be there.

do me favour

no men are women

I think the OP is expressing concerns that a biological male is changing with her elderly mother. Or are you one of those people who thinks a penis is a female sex organ?

Well yes males are a threat to women and.girls, being that they commit what is it 97% of all sexual assaults?

It's the reason we have single sex spaces, I thought everyone knew that.

OP, try Sex Matters to get the legal angle here on single sex spaces and for some words to draft up that letter.

Bollox @Noonecaresifyounamechange . A lesbian wouldn't be part of the group with the highest rate of sexual offending- men.

Op, someone wise and knowledgeable will be along with information soon.

It's clearly not me or the PP!

I think the reasons you’re finding it hard to word is because you’re wrong. The “person” is a women, who has ever right to be there.

Out of curiosity, how do you know she is trans?

Does her being trans make her more of a threat than any other women? Would a lesbian, for example, be treated with the same assumptions?