DDs nursery asking for donations to Mermaids

It doesn’t help that DH has swallowed the TWAW koolaid and implied he thinks I’m bigoted for having an issue with any of it

Simple then. Tell him to sort it. Job done.

I’d remove my children and let the nursery know why.

I support people who are transgender as part of my job I understand a lot of the struggles they go through ect.

However it is not something we need to push or "advertise" especially not to young children. The concepts of mermaids to a young child sounds appealing because mermaids are a beloved character to most, so i imagine the children do not understand what they are fundraising for or being taught. I'm sorry but my 3 year old isn't entirely convinced he is human and not a dog so the thought of teaching him about somebody changing gender is baffling!

Maybe something like nspcc or barnardos of even food banks would be a more suited fundraiser for children this young.

So I guess that long waffle was to just say as somebody who supports transgender people i don't understand why this would be a suitable fundraiser for young children.

Are there other mums/parents there who you are friendly enough with to see whether they agree? Might be easier to do if there’s a group of you.

Otherwise I’d be taking them out of nursery that day and I would email and explain why. I would plan to move youngest dd unless that would be unduly upsetting for her.

As for your DH he’ll have no problem with DD’s biologically male boyfriend staying in their room overnight as long as they identify as a girl?

www.tnlcommunityfund.org.uk/news/press-releases/2019-02-19/outcome-of-review-of-proposed-mermaids-grant
This says lottery funds were not removed

Wow that’s horrible when he actually does have skin in the game, namely his daughters. It’s one thing taking an ideological stance when it doesn’t affect you, bad enough though that is, but to not care about his daughters safety and dignity because he thinks TWAW is mind blowing. I’ll just never understand these people.

Back to the thread:

I'd also look at removing DC2. If you don't want to say anything the the fact it's closer to school is enough.

I'd suggest - if you want to suggest - raising money for the local children's hospital. That's far more relevant to kids (and their parents) than Mermaids, plus likely needs the money more. Far easier to understand in nursery age what it's for too.

Sex reassignment surgery (SRS) includes the surgical procedures by which a person's physical appearance and function of their existing sexual characteristics are changed to that of the other sex.

Changed to approximate that of the opposite sex. A male penis does not come at the expense of a chunk of flesh on and a woman's vagina is self-lubricating and doesn't need daily dilation. And that's just the beginning. The name itself essentially gaslights those people who have undergone it and found it wasn't quite what they expected the end reality to be.

Some transsexual people cannot or do not want to have SRS.
That term - which I'm not going to use as it's transphobic- is no longer used generally and if so, only by/about those who have undergone the aforementioned surgery. The point of the "transgender" term was so nobody could be differentiated by their genitals, which that term, due to its referral to post-surgery, does.

What makes them think that this particular charity - or theme - is in any way suitable to nursery aged children? So not the woodland trust or a local playgroup?

Id be out of there PDQ and loudly telling everyone why.

Get a new nursery place asap. Then give this one everything that has been suggested here, try to talk to other parents, who may not have noticed. Your dp needs to be told that girls are very much at risk ..and does he agree with the various methods that girls are currently using to conform to the trend? Seek out Standing for Women who may be in your town this weekend.

Sex reassignment surgery (SRS) includes the surgical procedures by which a person's physical appearance and function of their existing sexual characteristics are changed to that of the other sex. Some transsexual people cannot or do not want to have SRS.

Ooooh I wonder if that's why Javid has backed truss...

I hope she doesn't do the 'get rid of superfluous staff' thing though.

Gotta be Hanover! But this is nuts even for our city in Pride weekend.

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

I don’t mean the girls, I mean the TRAs.

@LSSG

The utter self-absorption of that…

Talking to Rainbows about diversity has always been important, but it needs to be relevant & age-appropriate. Diversity of belief you’d most often cover by running fun & interesting activities but you might also have to answer “why does RainbowVolunteer wear that?”. It might also be appropriate/necessary to talk about a Volunteer’s health or disability if there is a big/visible change - “they’ve had medicine that made their hair fall out” or “they’re being fed using this special tube” or “they need to use a wheelchair now” & letting them ask questions during Chat.

Developmentally, Rainbows are not ready for the meeting you mention. And doubtless it did take the whole meeting. Rainbows seek adult approval over peer approval (gradually changes over course Brownie section age) so they’ll be desperate not to “misgender”. ESOL girls may be completely overwhelmed; & potentially unable to discuss a session like that with their parents.

Rainbows may be small people, but they have Big Thoughts that Girlguiding is meant to help them express. All about being girl-led, supposedly. And obviously that requires adult input, but that’s very different from, well…

Can you write them a stern email, saying that choosing just one charity (and a desperately controversial one at that) gives parents no choice about what they do and don't wish to support; and that puts you in the impossible position of either having your children singled out by your refusing to participate, or forced to give money to a group that, in your (Worth Of Respect In A Democratic Society) belief is actively damaging to children?

I would think that if Allison Bailey's belief that Stonewall is dangerous to women and to gay men and lesbians is protected under the Equality Act 2010 then so is a belief that Mermaids are a danger to children.

Enclose the Cass Interim Review and her letter about closing the Tavistock (both available at cass.independent-review.uk/publications/)

And you could ask them to confirm that they will donate the share of the money raised as a result of your participation to a charity of your choice instead.

I do appreciate that asking one person to make this kind of fuss is a big ask - so don't feel you have to do all of that. But I would think it's surely OK to say "that is not a charity I want to support. Could you please donate x% of the takings to ABC charity instead, please, as my contribution? Thank you so much".

Thankfully not all of them
Some have an ability to think for themselves.

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

They’d say they were boys.

And girls with short hair who don't like pink things!

Kemi Badenoch is tipped to be Truss’s Education Secretary, so do write to her.

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

Yes, what is it about a male person with long hair who likes pink things that means he absolutely can’t share facilities with boys, but can happily share with females with short hair who like pink things?

So maybe he can be the one to answer the question of why we need changing rooms segregated by identity? His attitude would really worry me