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Another one heading to tribunal.

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moofolk · 04/08/2022 14:08

Some gardening will be needed soon methinks.

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Namerchangerextraordinaire · 05/08/2022 07:28

Women can spend their own money how ever they want.

They don't have to spend it all on make up & girly dresses, they are allowed to contribute towards court cases if that makes them happy.

It shouldn't have to be done of course, but as long as women are under attack, other women will enjoy their gardening endeavours & possibly gets months of interesting conversation, speculation & a show at less than the price of one night out.

Who doesn't love a bargain?

WarriorN · 05/08/2022 07:19

Personally this one is v important.

It's all very well saying schools need to be sorted out regarding teaching the sterilisation of children for gender non conformity, but it's the universities that are training the teachers and generating false educational research bases.

Inclusion is popular and trendy in education and they particularly like the pom pom waving rainbow kind.,

quixote9 · 05/08/2022 04:58

Bailey "lost" in the same sense as "transwomen are women."

Her employer did discriminate against her. So badly that she was awarded aggravated damages.

The judgement did not say Stonewall's part in this was fine. It only said the discrimination was the employer's fault, that Stonewall could not force them to be bigoted.

Stonewall got off on what amounts to a free speech defence, the judgement said the employer did not have to act on their guidelines which produce discrimination when acted on.

That is not a win in the real world.

moofolk · 05/08/2022 02:14

It's about an academic sacked because of students complaining that she cited the difference in the meanings of sex & gender, and for raising a student safeguarding concern where a male member of staff was sharing naked videos of himself with students.

If / when she sets up a crowdfunder, it will be through crowd justice & so all details will be explained and approved by a solicitor.

I don't blame people for being sceptical, but also there's no need to donate if you don't believe in the cause.

However, unions have (very sadly) abandoned us on this issue, and it's so important that women defend their rights to tell the truth, and that academics are allowed to encourage students to question their own assumptions and to engage in critical thought.

If we lose that we've got nothing.

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BloodyCamping · 04/08/2022 21:36

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Suing stonewall was positive despite the outcome of the court case. The court case was watched by many. Now many more companies understand about stonewall law and their outrageous expectations which do not reflect current legislation. Less companies to buy into their schemes

LK1972 · 04/08/2022 19:20

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Very true Wink

Datun · 04/08/2022 18:49

exwhyzed · 04/08/2022 18:28

Nothing to see here. Nothing to panic about. We will just tell the silly mummies that their fundraising was a waste of time and didn't work.

Just don't mention the huge leaps forward it made in protecting their rights to express gender critical views. They might get more silly ideas and then we are really up shit creek.

Lol, shades of 'Don't panic Captain Mainwaring!'

'They don't like it up 'em'!

Datun · 04/08/2022 18:44

DialSquare · 04/08/2022 18:27

This has just got me thinking of Ben Cooper holding a box of Kristy Kreme doughnuts. Salivating wouldn't cover it. Put it this way, the hosepipe ban would be over.

Hahahaha!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

yourhairiswinterfire · 04/08/2022 18:43

What is it about? Spending millions to lose and look like idiots while salivating over some lawyer?

You're very salty about that half a mil, huh? 😚

I'd hardly call damages, including aggravated damages, a loss.

Average donations to Allison's case was something like £20 (obviously excluding the large donation from a wealthy supporter).

I'm more than happy to donate £20 here and there to help women who are discriminated against by bigots receive the compensation they're entitled to.

And if you think it's us, or Allison, who came out of this looking like 'idiots', you clearly didn't watch the circus that Stonewall and GCC treated us to during the trial!

carbanana · 04/08/2022 18:41

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peonyred · 04/08/2022 18:32

I think she may come to this board when she starts crowdfunding.

Mollyollydolly · 04/08/2022 18:31

I'll be interested to see the details. We need a case that takes on one of the big unions for their lack of support of women with a protected belief.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2022 18:30

Mochudubh · 04/08/2022 18:22

I can't see from the link what this is about. Could someone please elaborate.

Yes - ignoring the derailer, if there's public info on the backstory here would be useful to know.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2022 18:28

What is it about? Spending millions to lose and look like idiots while salivating over some lawyer?

She won her case against her employer. And in practical terms that's what makes the difference to GC women. The company couldn't pass the buck to stonewall, they're responsible.

exwhyzed · 04/08/2022 18:28

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Nothing to see here. Nothing to panic about. We will just tell the silly mummies that their fundraising was a waste of time and didn't work.

Just don't mention the huge leaps forward it made in protecting their rights to express gender critical views. They might get more silly ideas and then we are really up shit creek.

DialSquare · 04/08/2022 18:27

This has just got me thinking of Ben Cooper holding a box of Kristy Kreme doughnuts. Salivating wouldn't cover it. Put it this way, the hosepipe ban would be over.

Datun · 04/08/2022 18:24

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Okay, I'll give you salivating, but not 'some lawyer'.

Ben Cooper is a God amongst men.

Some lawyer indeed.

And I'll thank you to keep your opinion to yourself about how I spend my millions.

Mochudubh · 04/08/2022 18:22

I can't see from the link what this is about. Could someone please elaborate.

Msuel · 04/08/2022 18:16

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GrabbyGabby · 04/08/2022 18:16

Its all about perspective. I contributed i reckon over £200 to the Forstater and Bailey cases. Because of those judgements i now have the full confidence that the law will back me, and i planning how to address this head on with my HR department. I call that a fantastic return on investment.

Notmanybroadbeans · 04/08/2022 18:15

Are you related to the person who put up a fake thread posing as an outraged donor, then posted a screenshot on Twitter before it got pulled?

Notmanybroadbeans · 04/08/2022 18:14

Oh, do bore off. What did you think we were funding it for, a share of profit? This isn't Dragon's Den, and we are delighted with the return on investment.

GreyCouncil · 04/08/2022 18:09

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2022 17:37

It's not about a monetary return on investment.Hmm

lady69 · 04/08/2022 17:32

U OK hun?

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