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I recommend anyone who does want to understand why Peter Tatchell keeps being mentioned on MN to use advanced search for his name.

And to read this all the way through.

www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/under-age-sex-statement-of-clarification/

And then realise this male is out there talking and giving information to children. In fact, proudly said in an interview how he had a discussion with a teenaged girl (under 16) about use of porn to enhance that girl’s sex life.

There is more to find once you start scratching the surface. Decades more.

No one who takes a child-centred approach would write: I don't know what Peter Tatchell's view are and I have no interest in finding out. Quite the opposite.

And I would argue that showing no interest in why Juno Dawson’s name is also mentioned in conjunction with young people and adults would be similarly an issue.

A poster who has spent months now vilifying Allison Bailey and Baroness Nicholson on MN, yet wrote I don't know what Peter Tatchell's view are and I have no interest in finding out, is not someone I can believe has children’s interests at heart. Nor is interested in children’s needs.

But we have also seen that the same poster has no understanding of the exploitation of the female body to provide others with families either.

And diminishes and hand waves away the increased risk of life limiting and potentially life shortening effects to female’s bodies to medical transitioning vs male bodies.

So, it is no wonder that some posters can take an absolutist approach, and a gleeful one, to condemning women who they don’t agree with, women who do recognise the needs for protecting children and all females, but will ignore, and double down in ignoring, those within their movement who make statements consistently undermining the rights and the needs of those females and children that the people those posters vilify seek to advocate for.

As a straight person, will you condemn all malign statements and crimes committed by other straight people?

Just some of the ‘straight’ people on this thread are people I also condemn. Do you? Because males who abuse females sexually are either heterosexual or bisexual. Either way, the committing crimes on this thread are clearly going to earn my condemnation.

How about yours?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread?page=1

And nobody’s sexual orientation is flawed.

It has become very clear over different threads that hearache has little knowledge on the needs of children and young people.

They certainly had absolutely no idea at all about the young people transitioning at the moment. Despite declaring they were experts in LGBT issues.

And they keep posting a study that has had the authors having to admit they effectively made up the conclusion…. It really is remarkable.

@Hearach15 Well, please stay the fuck away from the LGB activism that is meant to be for me and my kids. We don't want a bigot like you in our ranks.

You can go and be a bigot with the other 'LGBT' activists.

As a straight person, will you condemn all malign statements and crimes committed by other straight people?

I do! And I have. Remarkable isn’t it? That someone can have a sense of right and wrong that has not been impaired because someone works for Stonewall or is of the same sexual orientation or in the same community.

I also don’t ignore the rights of children and I try to centre their needs in making decisions. Remarkable to see that you can’t do that either.

I'm an LGBT activist - thanks.

I am inclusive of trans people.

@Hearach15 At this point you're being rather odd - I mean it's actually not on, saying that you hope there's a cure for anyone's sexual orientation, do you understand that?

Your views are not acceptable in a democratic society, and will only stand on this board to show the lurkers who you are.

I mean all this may be a bit of a game or a distraction for you, but you're straying into truly dodgy stuff here.

I hope people don't think all LGB activists or LGB people are like that, otherwise a future of my children is very bleak. I will do all I can to make sure this sort of unacceptable bigotry is nowhere near any movement I support.

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You are very kind errol. Very kind.

Yeah, I'm going with fatuous because I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

They are flawed but so are we all.

As I said before, some of my best friends are straight.

Well, it's a long time since I've seen the some of my best friends line.

What of it? it is irrelevant?

It doesn’t mean you are any less deeply prejudiced at all.

As I said before, some of my best friends are straight.

Yes Errol, Hearache has advocated for it on other threads. And been deleted for it, I believe …

Some of my best friends are straight.

Sure the world would be a better place if WBC could be cured of their appalling homophobia.

But heterosexuality doesn't need a 'cure'. Seriously, are you advocating conversion therapy for heterosexuals?

Ah so no comment on the support they are showing for the aping of their signs at Manchester Pride by participants in Pride then? Well colour me surprised, as ever one rule for you and your cohort and another for everyone else.

you have stated you prefer to remain ignorant of Peter Tatchell’s statements. Why? What kind of person would do that?

By the way is this a yes or a no,m answer, Hearache?

Do you support the statements about ‘intergenerational’ sex (and more recently underage marriage!) that Peter Tatchell has made?

Yes or no?

Do you hold Peter Tatchell, Jane Fae and Nancy Kelley to the same standard as you are holding Baroness Nicholson?

Please keep giving the live demonstration of how hypocritical your activism is. It just leads readers, and there will be thousands in the lifetime of this thread, to go and find out and drawn their conclusions about what you actively support in reality.

I am serious. The world would be a better place if the WBC could be cured.

I can't work out if 'a cure for heterosexuality' is serious or sarcastic but it's fatuous either way.

Wow, someone is trying to avoid answering for the crimes of other straight people. It's very telling!

Is that a yes or a no, Hearache

Do you support the statements about ‘intergenerational’ sex (and more recently underage marriage!) that Peter Tatchell has made?

Yes or no?

Do you hold Peter Tatchell, Jane Fae and Nancy Kelley to the same standard as you are holding Baroness Nicholson?