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Ben Cooper QC - Lawyer of the Week (in the Times)

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Justme56 · 04/08/2022 08:13

Sorry I can't share the article, but liked this:

What is the funniest thing that has happened in your job?

As a result of my work in this area, apparently becoming an object of admiration on Mumsnet [the Internet parents' forum] - improbable in many ways.

😁

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Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:30

BlessedKali · 06/08/2022 23:28

Arguing with these new posters is like arguing with the someone still polishing the brass as the titanic was sinking... It doesn't matter if they are polishing the brass, and it doesnt matter if we agree.... Ths ship is absolutely sinking.

Very true. Making Mr Cooper 'Lawyer of the Week' is like making the Captain of the Titanic 'Sailor of the Week'. Both failed their clients.

BlessedKali · 06/08/2022 23:28

Arguing with these new posters is like arguing with the someone still polishing the brass as the titanic was sinking... It doesn't matter if they are polishing the brass, and it doesnt matter if we agree.... Ths ship is absolutely sinking.

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:25

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/08/2022 23:24

Which one was that then?

Whoever represented Stonewall - aka the lawyer who won the case.

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:25

TopKnotch · 06/08/2022 23:21

@Hearach15 tell me you didn't watch the live feed of the ET, without telling me you didn't watch the live feed.....

The IDEA that that those responsible for the most embarrassing and frustrating court bundle blundering, and completely unable to competently operate a webcam or mute at appropriate times, could win any sort of award is seriously worthy of scorn. That's without mentioning the very serious suspicion (unproven) that the muttered insults of AB came from their microphone.

I don't need to watch the livefeed to know the Mr Cooper lost his client's case against Stonewall.

She should have hired a better lawyer.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/08/2022 23:24

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:21

"Ben's exceptional performance" - he lost the case.

Stonewall had a much better lawyer.

Which one was that then?

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:23

WinterTrees · 04/08/2022 11:10

It's hilarious that people still drop into these threads to insist that Allison didn't win 😂

Weird, because I read Stonewall won.

BlessedKali · 06/08/2022 23:23

I would suggest no one bite to the above comment... it deraules the positivity.

Anyway, I have three kids under 5 so no time to watch the court cases or to read through the threads.

I would love it if someone collected all the stella Ben Cooper moments in one place 🙏

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:21

WinterTrees · 04/08/2022 09:28

I hope he has read through the threads ☺️

One of the brilliant things about MN is that it provides a real time record of all sorts of things. In this instance, it's a frame by frame breakdown of Ben's exceptional performance - his quips, his arguments, his gotchas, his responses, his calm, dignified demeanour and his grace under fire. I hope he enjoys reliving a difficult case via the medium of MN and the wit of the vipers!

"Ben's exceptional performance" - he lost the case.

Stonewall had a much better lawyer.

TopKnotch · 06/08/2022 23:21

@Hearach15 tell me you didn't watch the live feed of the ET, without telling me you didn't watch the live feed.....

The IDEA that that those responsible for the most embarrassing and frustrating court bundle blundering, and completely unable to competently operate a webcam or mute at appropriate times, could win any sort of award is seriously worthy of scorn. That's without mentioning the very serious suspicion (unproven) that the muttered insults of AB came from their microphone.

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:20

Chrysanthemum5 · 04/08/2022 08:53

@whereareyounow did we watch a different case? AB and her team won, and the bits they didn't get a positive judgement on (stonewall) are still terrible for stonewall

Stonewall won the case against Allison Bailey. No matter what way you spin it she lost

(And their revenue has gone up, up, up in recent years. Must be that all the hate from GCs has given them a lot of good publicity among the LGBT community and allies).

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:18

whereareyounow · 04/08/2022 08:47

Ben's a great lawyer, he did the best he could but never had a snowball's chance in hell of winning the AB case.

Maybe if AB had had a better lawyer she would have won against Stonewall. I presume she didn't raise 500k just to sue the organisation with no hope of success.

As it is 500k legal fees and only 20k compensation from Garden Chambers seems a poor exchange for Mr Cooper's no doubt large legal fees.

Hearach15 · 06/08/2022 23:13

ResisterRex · 04/08/2022 08:24

Here you go:

Lawyer of the week: Ben Cooper QC, who argued that Allison Bailey, a barrister, had been discriminated against by her chambers due to her gender-critical beliefs

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/59e8be26-131d-11ed-b5dc-213f5c972cc4?shareToken=3e94a308c3362efdafc8474f3d9de6b5

PS: Hi Ben!! 👋

Why is he lawyer of the week - he lost the case against Stonewall and won in one aspect against Garden Chambers.

Surely Stonewall's lawyers who won the case in court are more deserving of this accolade?

BunnyBerries · 06/08/2022 19:42

Allison*

BunnyBerries · 06/08/2022 19:39

A personal favourite was the luminescent Bensplaining of a text message in Alison's case they tried to minimise

"It does stand for 'for fuck's sake' though, doesn't it?"

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 06/08/2022 14:38

My only concern is that he’s going to get “labelled”. Or, equally, put on a pedestal (and then torn down, a favourite sport on social media or sections of the press).

BC has been Lawyer of the Week on a previous occasion and for his work in a number of employment areas. He's very obviously exceptional to have made silk in 16 years.

Furries · 06/08/2022 02:55

I like to think that BC has spent a bit of downtime in his garden office, with a chilled glass of his favourite tipple. Surrounded by his lovely wall art. Whilst leisurely scrolling through the multiple threads created this year re MF and AB.

Yes, he was just doing his job. But boy did he do it well.

The bundle comment was perfect.

My only concern is that he’s going to get “labelled”. Or, equally, put on a pedestal (and then torn down, a favourite sport on social media or sections of the press).

RhannionKPSS · 05/08/2022 23:17

Pyjamagame · 05/08/2022 07:39

Are there review sites for Barristers? Your comment would make a great recommendation quote.

😂👍

Motorina · 05/08/2022 21:47

Most of my friends are the 'be kind' type. For a couple of weeks my FB feed was full of posts about support parrots and so on. That may not be a win for Allison, but it's definitely a loss for stonewall.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/08/2022 19:00

Were you and your colleagues not privately thinking What The Actual Fuck? (albeit possibly in a more eloquently way)?

Perhaps Ben and his colleagues had Arkell v Pressdram in mind? In that particular case, the publisher of Private Eye responded to a legal letter by saying, "We acknowledge your letter of [...] We note that Mr Arkell's attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you could inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off. Yours etc."

awwbiscuits · 05/08/2022 18:39

Hello Ben!

JimTheShit · 05/08/2022 18:38

Ben, if you're reading (digression: would you consider doing an AMA?), I would love to know how you found it hard not to snort out loud when "someone" from Stonewall turned up with a lawyer, a support person, her mother and her dog. Were you and your colleagues not privately thinking What The Actual Fuck? (albeit possibly in a more eloquently way)?

Pyjamagame · 05/08/2022 07:39

RhannionKPSS · 05/08/2022 02:45

Ben is a great example of a beardy man who isn’t a bawbag!

Are there review sites for Barristers? Your comment would make a great recommendation quote.

RhannionKPSS · 05/08/2022 02:49

Datun · 04/08/2022 11:17

Jeez, if you can read the judgement and view what Stonewall did as a win, your bar is so low, you might want to take limbo lessons.

😂😂😂

RhannionKPSS · 05/08/2022 02:45

Ben is a great example of a beardy man who isn’t a bawbag!

sweetgrapes · 04/08/2022 22:57

I'm just here to wave to Ben.
Hi Ben 👋love you!