Ben Cooper QC - Lawyer of the Week (in the Times)

Sure. And again you are showing your lack of understanding and knowledge about the case.

Keep it up though. It is great to see you so excited that Stonewall’s reputation will only really survive in people who share your superficial knowledge. Businesses will continue to withdraw support and I guess we will cheer from the sidelines.

It's also good that Allison got another judgment acknowledging that gender critical beliefs are protected, specifically including calling out coercive behaviour by trans activists towards lesbians, even when people get really really offended by it and stamp their feet.

Actually they are both listed as "First Respondent" in the judgements. These things are a team effort and I think they both did excellent working representing Stonewall in the case:

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Bailey-judgment.pdf

Then White didn't "win the case for Stonewall", did White? White assisted the QC, and hardly spoke.

If you scroll up through the thread you will see I have previously credited Ijeoma Omambala QC as well for the excellent work she did winning the case for Stonewall against Allison Bailey.

Touch of sexism, probably.

White won the case for Stonewall.

White hardly said a word, didn't cross examine anyone at all. IO QC was the lead, how weird to think that the junior barrister won it.

Aside from Allison winning compensation for the discrimination against her, it's also another example that you can't just discriminate against people with gender critical beliefs even if they manifest them quite strongly, and you have to treat people equally. GCC were not justified in some of the actions they took to placate genderists,

True enough. Allison Bailey never had much of a case against Stonewall and even the best lawyer in the world could not have prevented the judge ruling against her.

Which female?

Wishful thinking.

White won the case for Stonewall. Maybe if Allison Bailey had hired her instead of Mr Cooper she might have won.

I very much doubt that. She spent 500k and got 20k back. People don't go to court to lose money like that.

It was entirely crowdfunded, for a principle. Remember them? Court cases are expensive.

There was a woman featured in the documentary! I suggest you watch it, it is a fascinating insight into the excellent work the charity does for LGBT people.

Err. You really don’t read threads do you? Just skim and shoot from the hip.

White was jointly responsible for the bundle… they one that the tribunal judge specifically mentioned in the judgement being poorly handled.

They also never interrogated any witnesses either. They were a junior barrister in these proceedings.

Perhaps you really need to look further than your own gleefully wrong suppositions.

22k is nothing when you spend 500k. If I place £50 worth of bets and win £2.20 that is a very bad day at the races.

I very much doubt that. She spent 500k and got 20k back. People don't go to court to lose money like that.

As it is she lost on the most important claim (that she had lost income). If she had won that I have no doubt she would have been entitled to a substantial amount of £££.

"Have you ever had any discussion with Robin White?"

No but I know she did a better job representing her client on the case than Mr Cooper.

"This really is the most wonderful thing to see in a court judgement". It's not the view of the court - it's the view of Allison Bailey.

"evil nonbelievers and LGBT communities are completely distinct groups and feel confident in speaking for lesbians and bisexual women even when arguing with lesbians and bisexual women."

Oh I am aware that a small minority of the LGBT community are GC and I do suspect that the great majority of posters on this thread are straight.

Actually several thread are missing poster's posts today, they seemed to all have followed the same tone that S970's did. Maybe MN is tired of the 'gleeful' posters who have no intention of actually engaging with the topics and are here for other purposes.

Wow!

There have been some posters in the past few days that have had every single one of their posts deleted, seemingly for not posting in the spirit ! This thread is looking a bit holy.

I would like to see the statistics on what females were brought by Stonewall to the UK please.

Do you have them hearache? I have seen very few references that specify this. I would be horrified to think that female LGBT people , considering how the Taliban treats all females, were not 50% at least of who was rescued. So I will be very keen to see the links to assure me that Stonewall had a balanced approach in this, or at least, a convincing argument as to why it was not evenly split by sex.