Nick Cohen suspended over trans rights row

If a man behaves in an inappropriate way to women on even just one occasion he is a lowlife and should face repercussions.

If a man behaves in an inappropriate way to women on even just one occasion and supports male use of female single sex spaces then he is a lowlife and should face repercussions.

If a man behaves in an inappropriate way to women on even just one occasion but pretends to support womens rights does not believe that TWAA then he is a lowlife and should face repercussions.

I am really not sure what Transpeople have to do with anything here or what TRAs have done wrong.

If maugham has went after a bad un then we have someone of questionable morals going after a bad un.

If it makes one more misogynist man who assaults women face the consequences then good.

Indeed, it's never been about protecting women for these people.

Because the British press have it in for trans people. Once you work that out the coverage makes much more sense.

I've now read the paywalled article and it explains the trans angle.

It's nothing to do with trans people or their rights. It's more gutter journalism in which everything that goes wrong in the world is blamed on trans people.

It should be investigated and dealt with properly. Not sure why it's being linked to an "trans rights row"!

Because that was apparently Foxy's original motivation, he asked for dirt from women on Cohen because he didn't like what Cohen said about people being cancelled due to their trans views. Maybe he had already heard rumours, who knows?

Why has an investigation and suspension only now been put in place?

It sounds as though women’s complaints have been ignored for years and it’s only when a man raises them that action is taken.

Isn’t that the real issue?

@itsabouttimetoo 2 - 0 😘

There have been gropey sex pest rumours about Cohen for years now. So let's see.

Not to deny or diminish the accusations against him, but knowing what working life was like for young women in 2001, I doubt he was the only one doing it. But it's a very good thing if the whole male culture of these workplaces gets exposed and anyone responsible faces consequences.

Here's an archived copy

Thank you.

What @Ereshkigalangcleg said. I find the allegations against Nick Cohen concerning and I hope they are investigated. I'm sorry that it apparently took a male lawyer tweeting about the allegations to get this investigation under way but perhaps it was happening anyway.

In related news, I really like Nick Cohen's writing and find it thought provoking even when I don't agree.

. I . I find it sad that as soon as someone throws "trans" into the room, women are no longer believed and the man is to be protected. it sad that as soon as someone throws "trans" into the room, women are no longer believed and the man is to be protected.

Just like the lesbians saying they were coerced into sex with males who identify as women. They were also told to shut up because they were smearing all "translesbians"

Here's an archived copy, @Ereshkigalangcleg . It seems that Maugham asked women to come forward if they had worked with Nick Cohen. One of the complaints about him goes back 17 years.

web.archive.org/web/20220802215655/www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/08/02/star-observer-columnist-suspended-trans-rights-row/

That's what an investigation is for.

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Someone upthread literally said the accusers might be lying TRAs

Same. Sometimes dickheads (like Maugham) can do good things.

@TedMullins I can't see a single person on this thread saying Cohen shouldn't be investigated if there are complaints

God, they are all hideously awful. And they both opine on the truthfulness and morality of others, including politicians,which is the most hypocritical thing about it.

Implication is that Maugham went after Cohen because of his gender-critical views, and seized the opportunity presented by the allegations of sexual harassment.

I don't want to be thought of as a cynic or anything, but it's almost as if Maugham cares much more about taking down a political opponent than he does about women being sexually harassed.

Quite. This is nothing to do with trans issues. Nick Cohen has allegedly been groping and harassing young female staff and freelancers for over a decade. The fact that Jolyon Maugham and perhaps some of the accusers I’m speculating as I don’t know the accusers’ stance) have views on trans people that dont align with the gender critical view is irrelevant. Unless you think that if a woman supports trans rights it doesn’t matter if she’s been harassed or assaulted.

Shouldn't matter whether we agree with someone or not, multiple credible allegations need investigating, if true - there needs to be disciplinary action and a boot up the backside of the leadership team that would be tolerating this culture.

Yes. Zero argument from me.

Powerful men always find ways to minimize and distract from their transgressions. Male feminists / protectors of women (whether GC or not) can be some of the worst. Shouldn't matter whether we agree with someone or not, multiple credible allegations need investigating, if true - there needs to be disciplinary action and a boot up the backside of the leadership team that would be tolerating this culture.

Fox-killer wouldn't give a toss about Cohen if it wasn't for his other comments. It's like that actress who got sacked from the Mandalorian - it was her refusal to play the pronouns game that marked her card for axing.

Any trans ally forthwith quoting or linking to any of their articles should be called out and educated.

I hope LOJ is already drafting his noble resignation letter.