Nick Cohen suspended over trans rights row

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@AlisonDonut yes, I will allow MNHQ to make the judgement, rather than you.

And please continue talking re. Nick Cohen. It is not derailing a thread for me to point out that he is a sex pest and that there is transphobia on this thread and unfair attacking of trans rights supporters AND women who are accused of lying. If you find it tedious me calling out transphobia then imagine how tedious I find it seeing transphobia.

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@Datun I’ve posted multiple times without being deleted. Secondly, I was also personally attacked on the other thread, first in fact. So how do you protect some people that attack, but then others you are the ones attacking?

@Helleofabore if that post offended you and was against the guidelines then I am sorry. I do still struggle to see how a poster calling my siblings penis sisters, is much different to any content I’ve posted - that would also be considered a personal attack.

I would be interested in you answering the other points in my post, if you believe that all of you on this thread “played nicely” on the other thread (again the first indication of playing was raised by a GC not me) my posts cannot seriously be of offence to you - the difference is that you all have similar views, mine are different.

As mentioned, this forum is not just for people with GC views, I am allowed to exist in this space to, within the guidelines as I have found out.

I suspect that you have had quite a bit of experience on MN FWR.

Again, it is you who have constantly personally attacked people rather than engage, on this thread, with the topic at hand. People are not 'piling on' you. They are trying to point out that you are not posting in the published MN talk guidelines.

if you believe I belong somewhere else in my own “echo chamber” as you call it, if you truly believe in your rhetoric of protecting women then you would allow me to exist in yours as well.

This is really tedious.

I don't believe that ANY person should exist in an 'echo chamber'. Ever. I can probably confidently say that not one poster on FWR would say anyone should exist in an echo chamber. So, please can you just stop with the accusations that are based on your own false prejudice.

Anyway, it's really tedious seeing another thread derailed by the febrile protestations of itsabouttimetoo.

Indeed.

You will allow it?

Oh right. I'm sure they will note that at their next meeting.

In other news, today is Thursday...

"I'm using words appropriate to the situation", is a classic example of lots of words which say absolutely nothing.

You are summarising your own thoughts... with more words than the actual thoughts themselves would have taken to write down!

No one is ganging up on you. everyone is welcome. just don't expect any incoherencies you spew, no matter how kind, to be glossed over.

Anyway, it's really tedious seeing another thread derailed by the febrile protestations of itsabouttimetoo.

@AlisonDonut twitter shots? Why would I be posting for Twitter shots - please continue to make assumptions about me but there is nothing about having an anonymous thread posted on Twitter that is going to do me any favours in the real word. I was first alerted to the thread being on Twitter by @Ereshkigalangcleg - if it was picked up there then that is not my problem.

I will allow MNHQ to decide whether my posts are problematic. I’m struggling to see the difference between one poster telling me “chat shit get banged” and my posts.

I have engaged with the content

Please post where on this thread you have engaged in any positive way with the substance of the threads purpose.

Starting from this post here:

itsabouttimetoo · Yesterday 12:59
@itsabouttimetoo 2 - 0 😘

Sorry to disappoint, but women aren't here to protect people who are fully upfront about posting personal attacks.

As previously mentioned you are to your GC views, it doesn’t mean that you will continuously get away with inappropriate behaviour and it won’t be called out.

I've just seen this! Says the poster who almost can't post without being deleted!!

@Helleofabore yes posters on this thread or others do seem to have experience with deletion, and reading through the other threads, deletion was met with accusations of being muted by MNHQ. In fact, this whole conversation started because I stated that the other thread was personally attacking an individual and should be deleted, which was clearly agreed with as it isn’t there anymore.

As mentioned, if my comments were deleted by MNHQ then I will take that, but considering I was being berated on the other thread for attacking professional women or not being professional myself, then the thread gets deleted, then the responses on this thread are “chat shit get banged”…you will see where my confusion lies because you yourselves are allowed to use unprofessional language and you also you state that you are here to protect women but then are actually attacking a woman, just because I have different views to you.

If I wanted to write on every thread I could, this space isn’t just for GC views, I read a lot of threads and although for some reason posters think I’m young, I’ve spent a long time examine and critiquing my own ideology and listening to the views of others. As I said, I’m not scared to be metaphorically in a room with posters who don’t have the same views as me, I’m also not scared by attempted to pile ons over the internet, even if you believe I belong somewhere else in my own “echo chamber” as you call it, if you truly believe in your rhetoric of protecting women then you would allow me to exist in yours as well.

I love the way you behave @itsabouttimetoo as it allows us to patiently explain how wrong you are.

Your performance posting for Twitter shots is formidable. I'm sure they all pat you on the head each time you go back and show them how good you have been.

But it does appear that you are consistently breaking the guidelines on here so I invite you to read up on them before you get deleted yet again.

You're entitled to your views.

And in doing so you can attack people and tell untruths. But expect to get deleted and banned.

but this board is for everyone

Yes. We know.

We have a very detailed knowledge on the history of this board and how it was created and for what purpose. We are very grateful that it is available to everyone.

it’s not specifically a board for GC views although you would like to believe it is

No one, who has any history with this board, believes it is a board for 'GC views'. You can keep repeating your claim in any different way, but it does not make it true at all.

If it was 'only for GC views', well, that would make it the 'echo chamber' that other posters constantly accuse us of.

you don’t like the way I’ve engaged

No. MNHQ don't like the way you have engaged.

You are entitled to your views - I am entitled to mine. Your behaviour is bullying whether you would like to see it as that or not, I’m using words appropriate to the situation and @Helleofabore if you don’t know the history of sexism behind flounce then I encourage you to use Google. Unlike other “ploppers” I’m not going to be scared off a thread by gang mentality, or phrases like “chat shit, get banged” - I very much doubt you would say that to my face in real life.

I have engaged with the content, you don’t like the way I’ve engaged, fair enough, you don’t have to like everything I do, but this board is for everyone, it’s not specifically a board for GC views although you would like to believe it is.

If my post was inappropriate for this thread because it mentioned the other thread or was deemed to personal, then I’ll will also the deletion on the chin, but you should do the same.

Many people posting on the threads that you have been on are very experienced with taking deletions 'on the chin'.

I expect that you have the self awareness to realise the issue with that remark. Or do you normally burst onto social media platforms and educate or school people on their behaviour, when those who are very experienced with the platform are fully aware what behaviour is allowed or not?

Usually because they too have been deleted, had strikes issues and threatened banning for not following the guidelines set by the site's owners.

Stop hiding behind words like bullying, inappropriate behaviour and blatant transphobia.

Yes. Please do stop this. I have read your posts over at least two threads. You have personally attacking people directly and have a habit of making negative generalisations which is bullying behaviour.

Yet, you make the statement I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy and bullying as well as the blatant transphobia in this thread too.

Perhaps if you engaged with the content posted instead of policing it, then you would actually have an impact if your arguments are convincing. MN FWR is actually not a 'hive mind' and it is not an echo chamber despite many posters attempts to paint it as such (usually using arguments from their own siloed discussions on other platforms).

When was 'flouncing' sexist? As far as I remember, it is not a word used to denigrate or harm women like 'hysteria' has been. It is a word to describe an overly dramatic action done by either sex.

Maybe it is a cultural thing that I am not aware of, and I will be happily corrected.

Chat shit, get banged.

Quite.

itsabouttimetoo, maybe stop chatting shit, and then you won't get deleted?

You also might want to check out flouncer's corner to get up to speed on the phraseology of this site.

Nicely succinct