Page 2 | Sonia Sodha pulls all the threads together in the Observer today…

diningiswest · 2022-07-31T07:45:04+00:00

Another great article in a great week. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/31/dont-buy-stonewall-line-gender-identity-cant-sack-you-now?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

SeaRabbit · 31/07/2022 12:58

Share token for the Times article:

Clear pledge to wipe out woke culture ‘nonsense’.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f2818710-0f7d-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=3bc13a4aef3a143f50d56ac4e5fef43cc_

grafittiartist · 31/07/2022 12:41

So pleased to see my MP's name on that letter.

Xenia · 31/07/2022 12:32

Thanks for the link the Guardian article which includes

"One day we may look back and wonder at how a regressive and controversial worldview – that being a woman is not a scientific fact but variously an inner feeling or conformity to sexist stereotypes of femininity – came to exert so much influence over so many public institutions and professions"

minsmum · 31/07/2022 12:26

My MP signed which is interesting as I have told her and canvassers for the Labour repeatedly why I won't vote for them.

on a different note I was walking my dog this morning and one of my neighbours stopped me to ask if I had read in the papers about the Tavistok. We normally talk about the weather

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/07/2022 12:17

Floisme · 31/07/2022 11:59

Thanks for the link op - great article as always from Sonia Sodha.

And thanks WarriorN for the letter from Labour MP and peers. It took me a while to find it as it seems to be in the NHS section rather than in 'Letters' but take a bow: Tonia Antoniazzi, Feryal Clark, Marsha de Cordova, Rosie Duffield, Julie Elliott, Mary Glindon, Diana Johnson, Steve McCabe, Dianne Hayter, Philip Hunt, Estelle Morris, David Triesman, Tony Young.

Great article from Sonia.

Good news about the Labour MPs and Lords writing this letter, but as ever I look in vain for the name of my own MP, who is one of the best fence-sitters in the business.

Schoolchoicesucks · 31/07/2022 12:10

WarriorN · 31/07/2022 10:08

Letter

Oh wow, my MP has signed that letter. Very happy about that.

FrancescaContini · 31/07/2022 12:06

Thanks, Sonia. You’ve always maintained a very sensible, clear position on the issue.

Chewbecca · 31/07/2022 12:04

A link to this article was posted on the Guardian Opinion FB page which allows comments (unlike the original article), a couple of interesting ones below (male posters):

I have no idea why the Observer gives this hectoring, crude, tub-thumping journalist airtime week after week to air her anti-trans propaganda. Sort it out Guardian/Observer.

Just a reminder that Bailey LOST her case against Stonewall. £551k to receive £22k plus interest from her chambers for hurt feelings is not the victory the TERs are trumpeting.

ZombieMumEB · 31/07/2022 12:01

Common sense is starting to come back to society.

Thanks largely to all the wonderful women who have put themselves out there in the public line of fire.

What brave heroic women they all are.

Floisme · 31/07/2022 11:59

Thanks for the link op - great article as always from Sonia Sodha.

And thanks WarriorN for the letter from Labour MP and peers. It took me a while to find it as it seems to be in the NHS section rather than in 'Letters' but take a bow: Tonia Antoniazzi, Feryal Clark, Marsha de Cordova, Rosie Duffield, Julie Elliott, Mary Glindon, Diana Johnson, Steve McCabe, Dianne Hayter, Philip Hunt, Estelle Morris, David Triesman, Tony Young.

guinnessguzzler · 31/07/2022 11:16

Great piece from Sonia Sodha, very clear.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 31/07/2022 11:12

One day we may look back and wonder at how a regressive and controversial worldview – that being a woman is not a scientific fact but variously an inner feeling or conformity to sexist stereotypes of femininity – came to exert so much influence over so many public institutions and professions.

wow, what a fabulous article

MrsOvertonsWindow · 31/07/2022 11:04

There's a fantastic insightful response from Transgender Trend about the closure of GIDs - well worth a read :

www.transgendertrend.com/tavistock-gender-clinic-closed-down/

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diningiswest · 31/07/2022 10:51

ajarintennessee · 31/07/2022 10:33

It is not over

I agree.

And as things shift we will also have to make some more nuanced calls about what to support. For example not all Sunak’s changes to the Equality Act may be a good thing (it’s very relevant to my work, and I worry about this).

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TheKeatingFive · 31/07/2022 10:47

Gosh, so good to see all this. Finally sense is returning it seems.

eurochick · 31/07/2022 10:36

Excellent article. It's asks the key question - how on earth did this bonkers fringe gender ideology gain so much traction.

Mollyollydolly · 31/07/2022 10:33

I love Sonia - she's taken so much stick. Another fantastic woman. Great article.

JoodyBlue · 31/07/2022 10:33

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rishi-sunak-has-pledged-to-wipe-out-woke-culture-nonsense-zl5n96pgn

Don't know if this link works?

ajarintennessee · 31/07/2022 10:33

It is not over

Hoardasurass · 31/07/2022 10:28

Wow that's a good article that pulls no punches

AnneLovesGilbert · 31/07/2022 10:24

Sonia is bloody brilliant. And that’s an excellent piece. Thank you for sharing OP.

WarriorN · 31/07/2022 10:14

ShirleyJackson · 31/07/2022 10:10

That article! Oh my! Sense? In The Observer?

I might need a little sit down.

Observer is always good. Guardian all have a day off.

MajorieEks · 31/07/2022 10:14

The observer have a different team to the guardian and have always written pro-women articles. It’s still a fantastic article though!

pastaandpesto · 31/07/2022 10:13

Does anyone have a share token for the Times article?