DQ Story Time kicked off in Bristol

Same old, same old - TRAs desperately trying to portray women who won't accept men in their safe spaces as far right bigots.

That's exactly the issue I have with the absence of the photo. The venue and the drag queen know well enough what an issue that photo is and so they've hidden it from view, thus highlighting a complete lack of willingness to take responsibility for their own part in a safeguarding fail.
It's one thing to have a costume malfunction, put your hands up to it, address it and take necessary steps to ensure it doesn't happen in the future, its a completely different matter for both the drag queen and venue to pretend it never happened, what else might they decide 'never happened??

OK to be seen by children in RL in a library. Not OK to be posted on a thread about it? That does seem odd.

Thank you for the link @PurgatoryOfPotholes , I did think it was the same person. @Helleofabore it's frustrating because for me it encapsulated the issue of lax/no safeguarding in one image. When I was discussing my point of view with my DC aged 23 and 21 they were adamant that drag Queens are no problem around children, they could see from my viewpoint when I described that outfit (and the monkey incident) but I couldn't find that image to show them what other purple deem acceptable around children. .
If there genuinely is no problem why has that image been hidden??

Yes .... the photo keeps being deleted when directly posted into the thread....

This may refresh your memory.

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1540671598042042368?t=-cYXPDiCr_iApOiyMZ02ig&s=19

Yes I remember, the photo is out there of the jumpsuit & the lack of tucking... 🤮

Is it my imagination or was there a thread some time back about an inappropriately dressed sorry time drag queen who very evidently hadn't tucked and was 'accidentally' displaying a bulge in a tight fitting, spangly jumpsuit?

I don't ask out of titillation but that it was a clear representation of the lack of safeguarding people are concerned about and a picture paints a thousand words. Does anyone else remember this?

Of course the black pampers have turned up

Brave adult human females who believe a man can't be a woman are protesting St Ives Library in Cornwall today.

I was on a thread about this person a couple of years ago, at the time we discussed the adult pics that they had on their public social media (no separation between their evening and daytime persona) I see nothing has changed... it just seems they have a free pass where anyone else working with children would be considered unsuitable - a teacher for example with a Twitter page like that.

The way I see it, they don't choose a variety of inclusive story readers because actually what the library wants is a big, colourful show to draw in people to their quiet libraries, to prove there is demand to keep them open. The kids get a kind of clown. The parents can feel all liberal and edgy, the library gets footfall and some stonewall points and the DQ gets a secondary income stream. It's a nice little arrangement for all concerned.

No one really thinks any deeper than that - ie what the children actually learn or get out of it, and anyone who does have philosophical or safeguarding concerns or objections is labelled a homophobic bigot. In one way you could say, well if you don't like it, don't go... but presumably this is all paid for out of public taxes?

I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing TRAs/Black Pampers trying to stop women gathering to speak and the police protecting them, it's misogyny in its purest form

The Articles (1st doc filed @ the back) actually cover that as it would be helping a small business trade so any payment would imo be trading income.

"Trading" would be down to timings, if the company entered into contracts any time in the 3 months before May 17th it fall foul of the declaration that it was not trading (and new contracts after the application don't appear to be allowed under sections 1003/1004 either?)
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/1004

The document itself is messy.
The company needs a 2 directors quorm to pass any resolutions and per the Companies House records only ever had the one.

Companies House can disolve the company 2 months after 25 May 2022 (so 25 July 2022) it depends on what their process is re timings.

But your point is intresting as I assume that the payments would be subjected to income tax and the Councils should have to establish that the recipient tax compliant. I am assuming that as the DQ is a subcontractor that the Councils own insurance would cover public liability for the event?

And the ballet dancers don't talk about children opening their legs. They are beautiful whilst drag queens are not.

I've no idea, my comment was about Bristol.

I really hate this whole situation - women and LGB people have warned about a nasty backlash for so long. We've had to beg to be heard, and be constantly igored and lied about while knowing that there are other people out there who aren't polite and reasonable and the way they will act is not A Good Thing for anyone.

Everyone who's screamed 'women and LGB ppl are fascists', has contributed to this situation.

(GC women/MN types notably absent)

The women who were inside the library at the first protest were definitely GC, the points they brought up were exactly what we've been saying on here.

Imagine a woman as a Drag King doing a story time, looking the equivalent of a drag Queen so a male stripper type.

What could the woman wear?

Tight black sequinned/ or leather trunks that have been stuffed./or tight ‘merman’ skirt affair, stuffed.

A a tight beige binder top printed with muscles.

Fake hairs on legs and arms.
Maybe a bit of a beard.

Short hair wig.

A bow tie.

An open, long, swaggering, trench-coat.
Boots.

Make-up: dark thick eyebrows. Pale beige lipstick.

It would be so educational, and in the interests of inclusivity.

Yes exactly Menopausal. Bleak innit.

severnboring it makes you wonder what we have to do as reasonable people to be listened to. I’ve written to my local councillor. Initial personal reply expressing concern and saying he’d raise it, nothing since. I wouldn’t physically protest at a library for a childrens event. I’ve previously written to other institutions like British library and institute of architecture not using a template (as did many other women). When there was a reply it fobbed me off.
We’re raising this is a reasonable way but they aren’t listening, less reasonable people start to physically protest and we get blamed for jumping straight to that and behaving aggressively. In the meantime we’re still writing polite emails.

I don't have a current Times sub but it's true that one of the groups protesting is a rightwing group:

mobile.twitter.com/AlfUpATree/status/1553667844272971778

(NB the tweeter is GC).

Looking at this total mess, I see 3 groups, none of which have children's, women's or LGB ppl's interests at heart -

1. daft so-open-minded-their-brains-have-fallen-out Bristol library ppl and parents wanting to virtue signal using their kids

2. Antifa black pampers

3. Weird mix of far-right groups, consipracy types etc

(GC women/MN types notably absent).

I guess this is what happens when safeguarding isn't understood and the ppl with power and responsibilty have their fingers in their ears. The point of a liberal democracy is to have many backstops before we end up with groups fighting it out on the streets... no idea how to get out of this depressing mess

StillNotAGirl · Today 10:12
Thanks SolasAnla

The company is very much still trading as it’s the ltd company associated with the DQST web site. Wonder who the councils are actually contracting with and how they are paying for the service Hmm

Perhaps the company supplies a list of DQs
to the Council, who then pays the DQ as a self -employed individual. The DQ would then pay the DQST company a commission- but n.b. I don’t know this for a fact.

Thanks SolasAnla

The company is very much still trading as it’s the ltd company associated with the DQST web site. Wonder who the councils are actually contracting with and how they are paying for the service

(Health warning: i'm no expert)

To get at assets in the company.
To protect the ability to be a director of "good standing".

It looks as if the company filed and gained limited liability (ll) in 2020 but failed to any legal filing since.
One of the trade offs for ll is that the company file a list of assets and debts and directors.
Failure to file will result in an automatic legal process (compulsory, as in not initiated by the director) where companies literally cease to exist and the law then treats the director as sole traders for contracts written "by the company" do no ll.
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/1000
The second document is the beginning of that process and all property including (intellectual and branding and bank account etc) transfer to the ownership of the Crown.
Looks as if the owner/director then consented (voluntary, as in agreed with the order to close) to the winding up on the basis that it was not trading. The other option would be for the directors to apply to reinstate the company by complying any legal obligations.

Under a voluntary shut down the directors are allowed to carry out financial transactions like collect income and pay debts, like employee wages and directors fees. The advantage of agreeing to a voluntary shut down is that the director is taking responsibilty for what happens and retains control of the process.
A director in a compulsory strike-off company has effectively failed to carry out its legal obligations so that would be a red flag for people doing business with any other company the director is involved in (reputational risk).

It's very weird.

The fact is that most people are very supportive of library programming and all kinds of different things going o at libraries.

The fact that this upsets so many people doesn't even stop and make them think - maybe this is socially too controversial. Because even if you think it's ok, it is clearly very controversial.

They are acting as if people are saying, don't let gay men or black women into the library, or something like that. These are characters, like someone dressed up as Dora the Explorer. Drag performers are allowed to come to the library just like anyone else I'd bet anything that if they had someone come dressed up as Tin Tin and people complained that he was colonialist, they'd apologize and not do it again.