Harry miller arrested

Even on a thread about Harry any mention of KJK and all the not transactivists posters rock up to share their intimate knowledge of all her wrongs . Amazing how this always happens

She posted it at the time.

Is KJK's completed form public knowledge? Anyone got a link? Asking for a fiend.

On the matter of Rothblatt, Pritzkler and Stryker, the first two are Jewush while the last is not. They are all exceedingly wealthy. They wouldn't have been able to do what they have done if they weren't.

It's hardly anti-Semitic to point out things we don't like about their actions just because two are Jewish. We'd never be able to criticise anyone from a minority group for anything at all on that basis.

At the time you were allowed up to 30 people at a political gathering.

Could you post the evidence that you say proves that Kellie Jay Keen didn't tell them she was a political organisation please @antelopevalley? All gatherings were illegal at the time, there was an exemption for political events which SFW were using.

If she believed she was involved in a political protest (like Black Lives Matter) she was entitled to believe the protest was legal and I'd agree with that. You are projecting your own biases.

This.

That's simply not true.

They might call you a handmaiden.

Then she should have indicated that in the form she completed before the gathering. She did not. She told the police she was organising a gathering. This was illegal at the time.

If she believed she was involved in a political protest (like Black Lives Matter) she was entitled to believe the protest was legal and I'd agree with that. You are projecting your own biases.

@Ereshkigalangcleg Kellie-Jay completed a form beforehand sent to her. Her own answers indicated it was illegal under covid laws.
She was looking for a fight.

Im glad this incident with KJK has been mentioned because it goes to the heart of the matter, and the subject of this thread. Gormless, Stonewalled police officers deciding whose completely lawful gathering in normal times was a legitimate political protest and whose isn't.

It was completely outrageous what happened in Leeds.

This iswhat I love about this board. We keep the receipts so when transactivists random posters pop up with allegations against KJK and other women, someone has the actual facts to hand.

Yesterday, when the group Standing for Women tried to assemble at Victoria Square in Leeds to discuss the proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act (2004) (GRA) their meeting was broken-up by the police. Three of the sixteen women were arrested, including the event organiser Kellie-Jay Keen. A lengthy risk assessment had been completed and submitted ahead of the event to ensure the group were Covid-19 compliant, and the police were kept fully appraised of the group’s plans. After the event Kelly-Jay Keen explained that she knew was likely to be arrested, part of the reason she refused to give her details to the police was in order to have the opportunity to voice her concerns in court.

Despite the current draconian regulations prohibiting public gatherings, there is an exemption for political events. Thanks to this, protests such as Black Lives Matter have been allowed to go ahead unimpededed_. But according to West Yorkshire Police, women’s rights are not a political cause. A police officer told Kelly-Jay Keen that Standing for Women “failed to meet the legal definition of a political organisation”, though he himself seemed unable to explain what the legal definition of a political organisation was. The socially distanced crowd then divided into smaller groups of six to comply with Covid-19 regulations, but nonetheless officers began to take the names and addresses of attendees and the planned speeches were left unspoken.^

This reminds me of Kellie-Jays claims that she was arrested for standing up for women when she was actually arrested for breaking covid rules relating to public events.

This isn't true, but for someone who isn't a trans activist you seem to be well acquainted with the details.

thecritic.co.uk/standing-for-women-founder-arrested/

Remember Dr Konstancja Duff who was punitively strip-searched and the investigation took years to resolve and made her question her own sanity?

Oh yes, that was disgusting.

@ControversialOpening I am not a transactivist. I simply disagree with some people on the feminist board. Any disagreement, however mild, gets you labelled a transactivist,

@antelopevalley

Can you explain why anyone who disagrees with you is called a transactivist?
It is a bit boring.

I think I can answer this. Most (all?) of us here have no issue at all with transpeople, only with recent trans ideology. It's the people pushing that ideology, wether they are trans or not, that we argue with - so trans activists.
I suppose 'pushers of recent trans ideology' would be more precise, but a bit much to type out each time.

Is there a better term we could use instead?

Comparing the trans movement to literal Nazis is antsemitic.

Then so is comparing gender critical feminists to Nazis. You can't have it all ways.

How are you supposed to know who is police and who is a scammer when
real police do this kind of thing

Yes, I've seen a lot of similar things from police forces saying we never ask you for money, yet here we are with a documented case of police wanting money.
It's almost as if words no longer mean anything .

Personally, I find the new rainbow trans flag highly offensive and the way it was rearranged pretty much aligns with how I see it anyway.

I've just read a report in a local newspaper about people being tricked into giving money to scammers who come to their house, pretending to be from the police. The report quotes police as saying they will never ask you to hand over cash and will never come to your house to collect it.

And yet Harry Miller says, in an interview with Graham Linehan, that (genuine) police went to a man's house, told him he had committed a crime and demanded £60. Harry was arrested for arguing with the police about this.

I explained that they conducted a shakedown of a suspect they'd accused of having committed a crime. Yeah. I said, when you tell somebody that they've committed a crime, you have to caution them. You've conducted a 25 minute interview without any form of caution. What you've done is said that if he signs on the dotted line, signs a confession of guilt and hands over 60 pounds, they will send him on a course to reeducate him.
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-harry-last-night

How are you supposed to know who is police and who is a scammer when real police do this kind of thing?

The Forstater Challenge (as opposed to the Staniland Question) is this: What form of words would someone have to use to establish the truth of a matter when making relevant enquiries or engaging in relevant discussions.

The outcome of Forstater and Bailey is not only can we hold GC beliefs, we can express them.

#ForstaterChallenge is a useful exercise to enquire of those who wish to forbid the articulation of inconvenient truths, facts, beliefs or perspective.

I am still waiting eresh to see just how Helen Joyce could have worded those sentences to be acceptable to those who have found issue with it.

I suspect suggestions will not be offerred.