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Stonewall, The FA and Womens football

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respectmysex · 27/07/2022 20:55

Apologies if I've missed this, but I've not seen a thread tackling this issue.

Stonewall and their rainbow laces campaign is pushed by The FA across the mens and womens game.

Stonewall tweeting support for every England womens football match, flogging their rainbow armbands.

And The FA Trans Inclusion policy very clearly stating:

Trans doesn't have to be medical, it includes anyone who socially transitions only, or simply identifies as a cross dresser.

Trans players can play on the team their gender identity matches.

Showers, changing rooms and toilets should be accessible based on their self identified gender.

"Some trans women may be happy to change or shower in open facilities alongside other women" "It is good practice to ask a trans person what would work best for them"

• Players aged 18 and under
The Fa allows mixed competition for players aged 18 and under, and boys and girls can play football together on the same team .
any trans person in this age range is able to play on whichever team they feel suits them best, whether that’s boys, girls or mixed .

www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/the-fa-2015-16/transpeople-in-football-guide.ashx?la=en

With the next generation of girls being inspired right now to start or keep playing football, how on earth can The FA also undermine their privacy, dignity and competitiveness by forcing girls to share teams and showers with boys? (and potentially being supervised in those showers by adult male coaches).

Stonewall, The FA and Womens football
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SmallThingsEverywhere · 27/07/2022 21:24

Some trans women may be happy to change or shower in open facilities alongside other women" "It is good practice to ask a trans person what would work best for them"
WTF? How about asking women how they would feel about that?

FilePhoto · 27/07/2022 21:18

"Some trans women may be happy to change or shower in open facilities alongside other women" "It is good practice to ask a trans person what would work best for them"

I assume this works both ways and women should also be asked if they are comfortable changing and showering with trans women.

What's that? Women should just "be kind?" Of course. Silly me!

Womansisterdaughtermother · 27/07/2022 21:14

I feel like crying reading this.

JacquelinePot · 27/07/2022 21:09

FFS! I've watched and enjoyed the last couple of England games and have been so impressed by all of these young women. Why the fuck should any of them be put in a position where they lose a place to a person with a penis, have to play against a person with a penis, or have to shower and change in front of a person with a penis?

This absolutely boils my piss, especially as you say op, considering how inspirational this tournament could be to the next crop of girls coming up. 😡

achillestoes · 27/07/2022 21:07

I’ve completely dropped football for this reason. The sport’s institutions have become more interested in sociology than they are in the game, or the spirit of the game (fairness being part of that). I won’t watch it. No thank you.

respectmysex · 27/07/2022 21:02

And they also encourage Coaches to enable social transition of children without parental consent.

"Sometimes a young person’s parents struggle with their child’s trans identity and refuse to use the young person’s chosen name and/or pronoun . however, you can still respect the young person’s preferences at your club . It is often the case that when parents see other responsible organisations such as schools and football clubs acknowledging their child’s identity, they begin their own journey towards acceptance . at the same time, your football club becomes a valuable haven for the young person where their identity is respected, and where they can be themselves ."

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