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Remember also that they are not just "his" daughters. Presumably his wife gets a say in their education. They are, indeed, fortunate to have a choice. However, I would defend their right to exercise that choice for their own children.

I am not sure why a thread about women's rights has us discussing where a couple of children go to school.

I, for one, am very grateful that this issue has been aired in the debate. I haven't stopped smiling since the Allison Bailey victory and am smiling even more broadly given today's NHS GIDS news.

‘He cares about his daughters. Couldn't give a flying fuck about yours. He will also be committed to providing your daughters with "the finest healthcare in the NHS" while having private cover for his and even more committed to "the highest education standards for your children" while sending his daughters to a private school.’

So what? He’s rich. He can send his kids to private school if he wants. I don’t care about that. I care about the laws and policies he intends to make or repeal.

Even if this were true, which I don't necessarily accept - better indifference than actively working to throw my rights away. See, Labour and Keir Starmer.

People need to get over this idea that if someone is a member of the CP, the only thing they actually care about is their own personal gain, or that of their friends.

It's frankly ridiculous. Look at the thread on what's happening at GIDS, and specifically what has gone on behind the scenes politically to make it happen. That kind of thing happens because there is political support for a change in direction, working with some diligence, about an issue they think is important.

Why wouldn't Rishi, or anyone else in the party, have views on how women's rights in the country should be protected? The vast majority of people are not psychopaths, and want a functioning society. They may differ significantly about what they think will create that society, or even what will make people happy.

The ECHR is a tool, and there are always other tools. Sometimes better ones.

I see what you are saying, but if he is going to be PM for the next two years, even given what you say, and all the things he probably will not do, isn’t it surely better than nothing if he listens to women about language and spaces, or doesn’t cancel ministers who do?

Is that going to make his mates rich ? No. So it's of no import

My tawdry family? Interesting debating tactic.

I couldn't possibly write what a true blue Tory like Rishi Sunak really thinks of you and your family. It'd be a banhammer that extended over many reincarnations.

Anyway, this is all froth. Sunak has fuck all chance of being elected leader of the Tory party so whatever he believes (or you think he believes) is moot. If the leader of the Tories is to change it's Liz "what's the time so I can set my mind" Truss you need to be thinking about. But once again, believe you me, you will be thinking about her infinitely more than she will be thinking of you.

My tawdry family? Interesting debating tactic.

SerendipityJane · Today 10:49
But he knows what a woman is, what a daughter is and what needs to be done to protect our rights.

He knows what his daughter is, and will protect her rights. If you think he gives two shits about you and your tawdry family, you've either not been paying attention these past 200 years, or are in for a nasty shock.

You can't really talk about leaving the ECHR and protecting rights in the same universe.

I see what you are saying, but if he is going to be PM for the next two years, even given what you say, and all the things he probably will not do, isn’t it surely better than nothing if he listens to women about language and spaces, or doesn’t cancel ministers who do?

Good though the ECHR is, one regrettable aspect imo is that The GRA 2004 was passed in the UK to comply with the ECHR's ruling. I am sure there would have been good reasons, but it doesn’t seem to have been thought through in all of it’s ramifications in the way the U.K. adopted it.
fairplayforwomen.com/gender-recognition-act-2004-explained/

But he knows what a woman is, what a daughter is and what needs to be done to protect our rights.

He knows what his daughter is, and will protect her rights. If you think he gives two shits about you and your tawdry family, you've either not been paying attention these past 200 years, or are in for a nasty shock.

You can't really talk about leaving the ECHR and protecting rights in the same universe.

@BreadInCaptivity The former chancellor won the largest round of applause when he made it clear where he stood on trans rights. He said: “The fact that we have to have a conversation about what a woman is is quite frankly extraordinary. As a parent of two young girls and married to one, I know exactly what a woman is. We don’t need to have a debate about it.

“I am going to stand up for women’s rights, whether it is the language that people are now trying to erase from public life, access to changing rooms, sports – we need to stand up for women’s rights. It is not bigoted or somehow narrow-minded to say that.”

But he knows what a woman is, what a daughter is and what needs to be done to protect our rights. There are dozens of threads in politics where you can dissect other policies but this one is very specifically about women's rights to our own language, spaces and dignity, privacy and our ability to keep single sex spaces.

Annoyingly, I could only ask one question so I asked about his commitment to women's rights and protecting women's sport. He was quite emphatic about it and said that, as the father of two young daughters, it was something he cared about.

He cares about his daughters. Couldn't give a flying fuck about yours. He will also be committed to providing your daughters with "the finest healthcare in the NHS" while having private cover for his and even more committed to "the highest education standards for your children" while sending his daughters to a private school.

ResisterRex · Yesterday 18:11
Ask what he would get the dept for education working on, to ensure RSE materials are age appropriate, safe, and non-political. And how high a priority he would give it.

Yes. And remove teaching ‘gender identity’.

@ScribblingPixie not got a sub.

Can you post an excerpt of the article please?

Thank you!!!

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It's on the Telegraph website & says his answer to that question got the biggest applause of the night. Well done!

Perfect 👍

Ask what he would get the dept for education working on, to ensure RSE materials are age appropriate, safe, and non-political. And how high a priority he would give it.

Yes please

Yes please ask whether he will get Stonewall out of government depts given the Allison Bailey ruling today

Yes, this.

Could you ask him why the Conservatives have allowed transwomen into woman’s prisons, especially in light of the case of Karen White.
Also will any more of taxpayers money be given to Stonewall.

Also if you could ask him what proportion of his cabinet does he anticipate being female?

If it’s less than 50% then ask him what he plans to go to ensure more talented women are given opportunities to serve in senior positions in the Conservative Party?

thanks

Ask him what he has done to date to limit the influence of lobby groups like Stonewall in the Treasury and elsewhere. (The FCA?)

He will promise the earth. But has he done anything yet? Liz, as Minister for Women did start the ball rolling back.

@StansRealityStruggle Could you please ask- What does he plan to do to ensure women are lifted out of poverty, given that it is women who are disproportionately affected by long term poverty and the cost of living crisis?

thanks!