Doctors set out medical guidelines for trans men giving birth - Times

I cannot get my head around a woman who completely rejects being a woman in a female body to the point of medically transitioning for mental health reasons then wanting to have a baby, the most female thing a female body can do.

It's not that pregnancy and birth are feminine. It's that they're biological, female, physical experiences, the exact thing these people go to great time and energy and personal cost to eradicate in themselves. It's hard to believe that trans men get pregnant by mistake and then by mistake keep the pregnancy. Knowing what they do to the human female - not ever male - body, I don't understand how or why they'd accept doing it, while simultaneously wanting to permanently live as a man.

I'm not saying they don't have the right to get pregnant. I'm saying I can't understand it.

I also don't understand why when you're pregnant - and before, when TTC or after when breastfeeding - women are shamed for smoking, drinking, eating certain foods or not taking vitamin pills, but trans men's testosterone seem to be of little to no concern.

Why would the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists issue guidelines about the treatment of male patients?

Captured.

So much of that is directly against government advice!

No wonder people are confused.

The article, and the consultation it discusses, are such profound gobbledygook that it is difficult to believe they are serious. Why is the language of a document that purports to give clarity so unclear that they have to constantly explain whether they are referring to males or to females? Why refer to males, anyway? Why isn't a document from the organisation which sets clinical standards for childbirth and illnesses affecting female reproductive organs entirely female-centred? Why would the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists issue guidelines about the treatment of male patients?

Brilliant. The Royal College of Nursing will also call all us boring birthing people 'cis women' to boot. F. Off.

others desire disconnection with the process and express a preference for caesarean birth.”
You want to give birth to a baby but to disconnect from it? You want to breastfeed a baby, but to disconnect from it?

I don't understand why, if you identify as a make, you would then want to go through something so profoundly and innately female.

What I don’t get is why we have to call breasts ‘chests’ for the benefit of transmen, but transwomen still call their penises their dicks. It’s very confusing.

I hate that word ‘chestfeeding’ - especially when both men and women have breast tissue. If you want to give birth to a baby then accept the language that goes with that!

Aside from the rest of it, I’m very confused about why the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists has included advice about transwomen being in women’s wards in this guidance. What on earth has that got to do with gynaecology?

Here's the consultation details.

www.rcog.org.uk/guidance/guidance-consultation-documents/

Thanks OP. I'd like to see that document have something about the dangers of testosterone for the babies, in vitro and in maternal bonding. Good to see the Times covering this and realising that the trans language is contentious