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Here we go again: woman told she can't have a stall at a community event

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ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 18:11

From twitter:

"I’ve just been informed I am not allowed to sell soaps at a local event because of a conversation on a local board about TRA - my angle? That both sides are valid and no one is coming from a place of cruelty. How is this anything but an attack on free speech? "

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Here we go again: woman told she can't have a stall at a community event
OP posts:
MsFogi · 26/07/2022 23:28

It seems to sit under the Council - www.wiltshireclimatealliance.org.uk/about-us. I would contact their legal team.

MsFogi · 26/07/2022 23:26

OP - is this a charity? If so I would be contacting the Trustees to tell them of your concerns about how the charity it breaching the Equality Act etc etc

Justme56 · 26/07/2022 22:59

I was just about to link to Peter Daly’s article too. Start discriminating on the basis of protected beliefs is not a good look.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/07/2022 22:31

I think I'd be sending Andy a copy of this article by Peter Daly (Maya's solicitor) . Looks as if he's in need of a bit of educating about the law, beliefs that are WORIAD and how to live alongside people who don't agree with all his personal beliefs.

www.linkedin.com/pulse/morality-plays-lessons-forstater-peter-daly

LizzieSiddal · 26/07/2022 21:56

Wtf is “Transition Salisbury”?

SuperCamp · 26/07/2022 21:56

Hmmm. People in the Park doesn't look the most packed and vibrant event....
www.transitionsalisbury.org/copy-of-pitp-2020

Much better selling your products on MN, Fiona!

SuperCamp · 26/07/2022 21:49

I hope Salisbury Transition City have interrogated every member of their member organisations for any views that Andy might find worthy of excluding?

Get busy with your thumb screws Andy! Prepare the Gulags!

www.transitionsalisbury.org/ourmembers

Off to order a large shampoo / conditioner set as I have been meaning to try bars forever. Might buy some dog shampoo for my friends dog, too, as a little treat.

Mollymalone123 · 26/07/2022 21:43

I really hope the daily Mail pick up on this!Its absolutely absurd.
I get angrier every time I see this nonsense-surely he’s breaking their own community rules by not being inclusive of women who don’t buy into the bullshit propaganda that TRA’s spout or is Andy scared?

JanieAllen · 26/07/2022 21:16

The good news is that Fiona has had a rush of orders! Women of twitter and Mumsnet have stepped up to the plate.

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 20:57

zen1 · 26/07/2022 20:50

So before you get ‘accepted’ to be a stall holder at this community event, your personal social media is scrutinised and you are granted a place only if your opinions align with those of a random committee member?

It's mental isn't it? As if most people attending would even be aware of Fiona's posts anyway. I doubt she would have brought it up in conversation either when she's serving customers. And she would have been there to sell soap, not Standing for Women merchandise!

It's a whole new level of punishment to stop someone doing something completely unrelated.

OP posts:
zen1 · 26/07/2022 20:50

So before you get ‘accepted’ to be a stall holder at this community event, your personal social media is scrutinised and you are granted a place only if your opinions align with those of a random committee member?

TheBestBitch · 26/07/2022 20:36

Ffs, more bullshit
shame on you Salisbury council

Sexnotgender · 26/07/2022 20:02

Why was my post deleted??

PaleBlueMoonlight · 26/07/2022 19:55

Have you since replied OP? Is Andy local, could you go and see him? (A face to face chat might help.)

ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2022 19:45

I had only read your first post, without the end of Andy’s letter or your reply.

I think your reply is excellent and fair. He is the one promoting disharmony.

By the way, I would buy your soap too.

SpindleInTheWind · 26/07/2022 19:42

NeedToKnow101 · 26/07/2022 19:05

salisburysoaps.com/buy-salisbury-soap/
Your products look lovely!

Definitely. Well priced, created for sensitive skins using goat's milk and beautiful ingredients, with a version for pet dogs!

Soaps, shampoos, conditioners. Lovely stuff. I have a dermatological condition and will try these.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/07/2022 19:37

From the last section of what they wrote to you:

"One of the central themes of the event is the
promotion of equal rights
and the freedom of people to be what they want
to be, to live in a
manner of their own choosing which does no
harm, and to love those they
wish to love. With this in mind, the event
organisers are keen to ensure
that the event is accessible to all. It is hoped
that the EMP above
reflects this desire to treat people fairly. The
organisers are always
open to ideas as how this can be improved!"

What gibberish. Where are your equal rights? It isn’t accessible to all if you are kept out. Their stance towards you does not reflect a desire to treat you fairly.
They are not presumably open to any ideas other than their own.

BookWorm45 · 26/07/2022 19:36

Sounds like time for us to be buying some soap directly from Fiona's website....

Agree with PPs, having looked at the People in the Park website, their focus is allegedly all about environmentally friendly items. They do not claim to have an agenda about views on sex/ gender.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 26/07/2022 19:32

Havel's greengrocer contemplating the window sign and Solzhenitsyn would both recognise this scenario.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4382551-Live-not-by-lies-Solzhenitsyn-no-tambourines-involved?

We won't need an authoritarian government to impose parts of the Social Credit system on us, it will already be being done by Andy and similar self-appointed arbiters.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/07/2022 19:31

Andy should read the paragraph starting 'One of the central themes...' and ban himself.

He's not promoting equality, he's not promoting the freedom of women to be who they want to be, and he is doing harm.

IcakethereforeIam · 26/07/2022 19:24

'Transition Salisbury'? Bit on the nose, isn't it.

Staffy1 · 26/07/2022 19:16

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 26/07/2022 18:38

So you can live as you please unless you're a woman? Many women's sports are now unisex, there are few female rape crisis centers and a woman in prison can be locked in with a male. Head has disappeared up your own arse if you think that is living as you please.

Can someone put this to Andy? It needs pointing out to certain people.

SerenaVanDerWoodsenHumphrey · 26/07/2022 19:10

And of course, this professional woman hater has shown up with his lies and threats. Wouldn't be Twitter if a serial abuser couldn't make a buck off of misogyny, would it?

NeedToKnow101 · 26/07/2022 19:05

salisburysoaps.com/buy-salisbury-soap/
Your products look lovely!

FKATondelayo · 26/07/2022 18:56

Honestly I would report him to EHRC and whatever local authority licences him to put on the event (though guessing it's Wiltshire of 'untoward to paedophiles' fame). What he is doing is illegal (counter to Equality Act protection of belief).

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