Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judith Butler in The New Statesman

184 replies

ScreamingMeMe · 23/07/2022 16:04

twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/1550765835144364040?t=q1JBabwoM_zR2lp91Fml0A&s=19

What does the overturning of Roe vs Wade mean for progress? And where does feminism go next?

@paperdispatch spoke with the philosopher and gender theorist, Judith Butler, about Roe vs Wade, trans rights, and the war on education.

t.co/sQXh7virgB

🔴On the reaction to Roe vs Wade: "I don’t agree with analysts who lay the blame for the repeal on feminists or trans people or the deceased Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg."

"That way of turning against ourselves is too easy and wrong-headed and it keeps us from doing what is most necessary – analysing and defeating the hard right."

"When some feminists now make claims like, “the patriarchal oppression of women is heavily rooted in our reproductive systems”, it can sound like those reproductive systems are the cause of the oppression. That is muddled thinking, wrong, and does not advance feminist aims."

🔴Is the ruling a backlash to progress?

"I think we are witnessing something more serious and dangerous than a backlash. This is a “restoration project” that has as its final aim the reconstruction of an order that some feel has been dismantled by progressive legislation." t.co/j9Pv5lTsqj

"Under this “restoration project”, not only is patriarchy to be restored, protected against its dismantling, but white supremacy, and exclusively heterosexual marriage."

"White supremacists and Maga Republicans are also waging a war against educational institutions from K-12 [primary and secondary school] through higher education, accusing leftists of inculcating ideology."

"We have to understand the attack on movements for racial justice, abortion rights, healthcare justice and legal protections for migrants, support for the gun lobby and the arms industry, as linked with the repeal of Roe." t.co/e9h2uc1qg7

🔴Where do you see hope when you think about what’s next?

"We have to fight for abortion rights, but it is one of many rights that belong to reproductive justice, and that reproductive justice is part of the complex and dynamic struggle for justice."

"Once we realise that, then we are on our way toward imagining a transformative force that would equal and overcome those who promote hatred and inequality."

"We are gathered as targets by a well-coordinated Right, so perhaps we should decide how we want to gather, and for what aim."

Read the full interview here:

t.co/sQXh7virgB

OP posts:
ErrolTheDragon · 23/07/2022 16:37

On the reaction to Roe vs Wade: "I don’t agree with analysts who lay the blame for the repeal on feminists or trans people or the deceased Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg."

Blimey, butler said something comprehensible that I pretty much agree with.

terryleather · 23/07/2022 16:36

"When some feminists now make claims like, “the patriarchal oppression of women is heavily rooted in our reproductive systems”, it can sound like those reproductive systems are the cause of the oppression. That is muddled thinking, wrong, and does not advance feminist aims."

What is women's oppression rooted in then Judy, if not in our sex you absolute melt.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 23/07/2022 16:36

Some great victim blaming in that bit about reproductive systems. Denying the additional vulnerability during and after pregnancy is an abject lesson in futility, or being stood on a step too high to see reality.

Being divorced from an issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Conflictedunicorn · 23/07/2022 16:35

dropthevipers · 23/07/2022 16:13

Read another Judith butler article? Not whilst the option of driving six inch nails into my bollocks remains available.

Was just thinking that

NotTerfNorCis · 23/07/2022 16:31

Sounds like obfuscating rubbish to me. Political campaigning needs clear goals, not waffle.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 23/07/2022 16:31

"We have to fight for abortion rights, but it is one of many rights that belong to reproductive justice, and that reproductive justice is part of the complex and dynamic struggle for justice."

What are the others? And whose rights? Even “abortion rights” is a slippery term. Abortion rights for men is a concept that’s been bandied about by MRAs. And I’m quite certain Butler includes surrogacy in her concept of “reproductive justice.”

Fuck Butler, screw this slippery and malleable “reproductive justice”, and no thank you to this alternative road to Gilead. Women’s liberation > “reproductive justice.”

LondonWolf · 23/07/2022 16:14

dropthevipers · 23/07/2022 16:13

Read another Judith butler article? Not whilst the option of driving six inch nails into my bollocks remains available.

😁

dropthevipers · 23/07/2022 16:13

Read another Judith butler article? Not whilst the option of driving six inch nails into my bollocks remains available.

MishyJDI · 23/07/2022 16:11

Thanks for the share. She is such a forward thinker and seeing through what is happening right now. We border on fascism. Its scary.

Swipe left for the next trending thread