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Charities targeting SEND children with gender identity

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FemaleAndLearning · 23/07/2022 10:43

This charity hosts some excellent training courses, but I've just seen they are running this "How to effectively support transgender and non-binary young people: for parents and professionals". You can see who is running the course by clicking on the link. Not surprisingly the slides will not be available afterwards nor will it be recorded. This is what it will cover:

-Understanding gender and gender diversity
-LGBTQIA+ terminology awareness
-Challenges faced by trans young people
-Transition pathways including healthcare
-Changing names, systems and forms
-Legal responsibilities
-Managing single-sex spaces
-Improving equity, equality and diversity; policies, guidance, recommended resources

No mention of autism or other disabilities. Obviously this will be a one sided affirmative approach and it makes me so angry that SENd children are being targeted.

I've had to leave parents of autistic children groups on Facebook because everytime I suggest alternative support groups for parents like Transgender Trend, Bayswater Support, PITT, my posts get deleted for transphobia!

I'm too angry to go on the course but have sent the link to Transgender Trend because this targeting of already vulnerable children (young people?) needs to be looked at. I am also going to write to Sunshine Support (the hosting charity) to suggest they show both sides of the discussion and have an event run by a watchful waiting organisation.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-effectively-support-transgender-non-binary-young-people-tickets-353930243887?aff=odeccpebemailcampaigns&utm_source=eventbrite&utm_medium=ebcampaigns&utm_campaign=8444309&mipa=ABIdvVt03MxPrxU4AMcthlIALaOCMrB3baCjQhNM5jyVDw1grWsPTUCcfetsq1OyU2t1_ICzf995JPLf0irr6VPqbSu3TSCGh5HTS00NIfpRTEbKKhbDFsMpUDL1WfOZ3jOAa91nEFGEkPN-5IAimgRq4fmn06LRKdtEyiZj0DHyLH99XHDwF6xmkiBqNIfWFW-hpUju2_4POxZo_Lrsm-PZOJ89ccVY7JGZi2KYLSszceL-XcWU2cYHY3py7snvW6XpdQ_jkw19xTD5BDDbQZE3hM6L9ILQog

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FemaleAndLearning · 30/07/2022 15:30

Sunshine Support have posted on Facebook about inclusivity and all the abuse they are getting via email then block and ban people when they think they are transphobes!

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Unformidable · 30/07/2022 15:19

I had a look at the charity's website and their media support person is a journalism student at Goldsmiths, which may explain the approach.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/07/2022 10:33

WhiteFire · 30/07/2022 08:43

Are they even UK stats? I find it difficult to believe that 1:8 have been evicted because they are transgender.

Your instinct is correct: sources of stats for that skyblue 'visibility' graphic are US-based.

transstudent.org/graphics/transvisibility/

That 41% 'attempt statistic' is slightly odd. We see stats in the 40s used a lot in the UK so it's hard to know if that graphic designer has randomly thrown 41% into the graphic without a source because I'm not working my way through a number of US reports to see if they use that there.

However, for UK statistics, this is a good exploration of the numbers and why those claims do not stand up for suicide/attempts etc.

www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/

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FemaleAndLearning · 30/07/2022 10:09

Also reported it for false information on health grounds. It's a whole booklet! But it is so colourful and appealing! Have they not even looked at the Cass Review.

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ofwarren · 30/07/2022 09:43

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:37

Just reported that image. V easy.

I'll do that thanks

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:40

I've noticed that on Facebook and Instagram, actually any social media except twitter, the falsehoods go totally unchallenged.

Because they delete and ban you. They crow about it under that post.

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:37

Just reported that image. V easy.

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:35

I wonder if things like that could be flagged as fake news? Even polly Carmichael has said there's issues with them

ofwarren · 30/07/2022 09:28

They also posted this lie yesterday.
I've noticed that on Facebook and Instagram, actually any social media except twitter, the falsehoods go totally unchallenged.

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WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:05

It's potentially ableism too.

Trans is more 'acceptable' now and gets met with celebration and attention than other diagnoses.

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FemaleAndLearning · 30/07/2022 09:02

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 08:56

Well for one individual it's projection and affirmation of their own approaches to parenting.

Absolutely this. If you have put your child on a medical pathway by getting other parents to do the same thing you can justify what you are doing or have done.

And of course money via National Lottery, local grants, donors.

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WarriorN · 30/07/2022 09:00

Look at how much training mermaids do. And then send charities pass that on. Schools buy so much more trainers in now as the centralised education lea model has greatly reduced.

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 08:59

There's a hell of a lot of money in all this too.

They can apply for funding eg lottery etc. on the basis of MH. they're manufacturing their service user base and creating their need.

If you think about how a wait and watch and wider mh analysis model will work v affirmative, it means less need for mermaids.

In the us particularly it's the medical funding.

WarriorN · 30/07/2022 08:56

Well for one individual it's projection and affirmation of their own approaches to parenting.

ComplexNeeds · 30/07/2022 08:53

Can someone explain to me what’s in it for these activists, Stonewall, mermaids etc please? It’s seriously worrying. But why do this, what’s in it for them?

OldCrone · 30/07/2022 08:51

The poster about trans visibility is from an American organisation. It has no relevance to the UK.

transstudent.org/graphics/

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FemaleAndLearning · 30/07/2022 08:44

Oh dear that graphic uses the 41% suicide stat. Sounds like Sunshine Support are fully captured. I would think our SEND kids generally don't feel safe at school.

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WhiteFire · 30/07/2022 08:43

Are they even UK stats? I find it difficult to believe that 1:8 have been evicted because they are transgender.

ofwarren · 30/07/2022 08:08

They have posted another trans post this morning on Facebook

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ScrollingLeaves · 30/07/2022 03:05

FemaleAndLearning · Yesterday 23:20
The webinar is on 4 Aug. I wrote on Wednesday to Sunshine Support but they have not responded yet. After yesterday's news about the Tavistock I want to write a follow up and say Mermaids are oro fast track which is in conflict with Dr Cass and ask them to consider rescheduling the webinar with Mermaids until next summer when the new centres are set up and have their new procedures in place, which will not include a fast track to puberty blockers.

Has anyone had any feedback from Sunshine Support.

I'm going to ask Mumsnet HQ to change title to include Mermaids so we get more traffic on this.

I'm so mad they are targeting SEND children.

Thank you for drawing our attention to this.
Given the lessons from the failures of The Tavistick, and The Cass report this is so wrong.

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FemaleAndLearning · 30/07/2022 00:13

Wow, I'm clearly not the only person who has complained, but they are digging their heels in. Must reload Facebook!

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ofwarren · 30/07/2022 00:06

Sunshine support posted this on their Facebook today.
They then posted another trans post.

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FemaleAndLearning · 29/07/2022 23:44

Clymene · 23/07/2022 11:09

This article: www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/03/mermaids-leading-children-up-the-trans-path/

Thank you that will be useful.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 29/07/2022 23:35

FemaleAndLearning · 29/07/2022 23:33

It is behind a paywall but I can copy your text. Thank you. Interesting that he advocated for a slow approach like the Cass Review.

Check your inbox.

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FemaleAndLearning · 29/07/2022 23:33

It is behind a paywall but I can copy your text. Thank you. Interesting that he advocated for a slow approach like the Cass Review.

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