Charities targeting SEND children with gender identity

Good idea I will send it to Dr Cass. She needs to be aware of the way autism and questioning your gender ste seen as co morbid, a bit like epilepsy can be, but I don't see parents all rushing to prove their child has epilepsy be sure you need facts for that.

LeaveAutisticsKidsOutOfGenderWoo · Today 22:54

Regarding the screen shot from Sunshine support about autism, which shows a misunderstanding about the correlation between a child being autistic and their wishing to change their gender, do you think you should send it to Dr Cass? She may not realise quite how blatantly parents are being misinformed by an influential so called support group.

It's very bad that you got banned, LeaveAutisticsKidsOutOfGenderWoo, and it's very sinister.

You are trying to protect girls.

They don't seem to even recognise, let alone understand, that there are males and females. Fact. Biology.

And that in current society, as in society for thousands of years - women and girls, females, are still the more oppressed class. Whatever their neurotype.

Oh dear I refused to be educated on their Sunshine Support's Facebook page so I have been banned and all my posts deleted! I spent a lot of time giving links and evidence and was just met with transphobe, bigot and TERF. I never called anyone any names. I asked lots of genuine questions to try and see why so many autistic girls were transitioning and why this was being allowed.

Mermaids claim the forum is very controlled you need ID to join but no mention of how content is moderated with such a large age gap.

A question was asked about residential single sex spaces. The answer was blah blah the Equality Act then see our page for a really good resource. But the page only talks about the EHRC guidance, stressing the word guidance.

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/single-sex-spaces-know-your-rights/

The reply was "typically you should be able to use the facilities that match your gender".
13 year old girls want to share forms with 13 year old boys and noone sees this as a safeguarding risk just about getting the right to be in there and validate the new gender. I was gobsmacked.

I think it is really cruel that Mermaids give this false hope to parents and children questioning their gender surely it only causes conflict? Though I guess some schools will just go along with it once the Equality Act is mentioned.

I was polite in the webinar and only asked a few questions most didn't get answered as there was not time.

Very disappointed in Sunshine Support. Screenshot attached where they say anyone who refuses to me educated will be banned.

Thanks for attending.

Concerned that 19 yr olds are in with 13 on a closed forum.

So I attended the webinar. I will give a full account tomorrow as I am very tired. It was very warm, lovely and inclusive. First hour was all about definition. Very much a marketing webinar aimed at increasing traffic to their website, legal support and the forum. Online forum for young people is for ages 13 to 19. You have to apply and give ID.
Wouldn't answer questions on Tavistock closure defaulted to statement on their website. Honestly if I hadn't been gender critical I would have fell for all their lively be kind stuff. More tomorrow.

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I agree with this. I remember years ago hearing an interview on women's hour with a mum who's daughter was confused about their gender identity. The highlight for me was this 'I knew something was wrong when she had a pirate and princess party and she wanted to dress as a pirate'. !!!!!! And there she was sounding terribly anxious being interviewed on the radio getting lots of attention!

Yes.

They can also apply to various funding bodies for all sorts of amounts of money. Thus seeming to be rubber stamped. But the people with the purse strings haven't got a clue about safeguarding let alone how affirmation models are damaging.

Completely missing that it's very hard for children with cognitive and speech and language differences to remember or understand all those ridiculous words.

Being exceptionally exclusionary in a idiotic desperate attempt to be "inclusive."

Obviously Mermaids are complete bobbins but these self-styled SEND 'advocacy agencies' don't generally have any oversight or due process over, in my experience.

I know someone who runs a SEND agency and her confidentiality and professionalism are shockingly poor. Advocacy isn't a regulated or protected industry, any old sheister can set up an agency like this so I wouldn't expect them to be peddling anything ethical anyway.

ofwarren · Today 21:15
Sunshine support at it again

Re the Sunshine screen shots you posted:

That message is irritating, saying on the one hand that they are inclusive, while on the other telling anyone who doesn’t agree with their agenda ( to be free to brain wash in private) to go away.

That little basic grammar lesson on pronouns is almost funny. Never again will pronouns in language lessons at school seem the same.

Sunshine support at it again

Clymene · 23/07/2022 11:09
This article: www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/03/mermaids-leading-children-up-the-trans-path/

Thank you, that article is very informative.

Pleased to see some comments challenging them on the suicide stats and showing Cass review info over night

individuals and groups selling gender ideology

This sentence needs to be used as often as possible in relation to organisations pushing the affirmation model. That's exactly what they're doing, selling, not educating or supporting or protecting, selling. Like confused young people are a commodity to be profited from, it disgusts me to my core.

individuals and groups selling gender ideology

This sentence needs to be used as often as possible in relation to organisations pushing the affirmation model. That's exactly what they're doing, selling, not educating or supporting or protecting, selling. Like confused young people are a commodity to be profited from, it disgusts me to my core.

I'm not sure how terfy he realises I am. I don't bring it up directly, any more. I go with my world is so gloriously big, rather than your world is too small.

Ds1 is wrapped up in this world, online, but in reality he recoils when faced with anything that goes against his man-ness. I do wonder how different it would be if he had direct rl influences.

I've noticed that, now he's less afraid of covid and is getting out more, his fanboyism has waned significantly.

There is reams and reams of data about the overrepresentation of autistic kids in the cohort that ID as trans. I can totally see the attraction

It's really disturbing how many parents see this as a good thing. I do think that being a parent of a child with a 'thing' can be quite validating and give people a sense of belonging. It's not quite munchausen's by proxy but there is definitely a degree of being able to identify as a special victim which is quite compelling. I can see how this can be another thing to add to the list of struggles.

Autistic children can fixate on something to deal with their anxiety and gain control. With my daughter it's getting a pet. If she's getting anxious she'll hound me endlessly and desperately about getting a cat/ pig/parrot. The thing is, it's ok for me to explain why we can't get another pet right now and I just have to ride out the meltdown. If her fixation was that she was transgender, society is so worried about transphobia that it has become unacceptable to look beyond what the child is saying and rather than find a way to deal with the underlying anxiety, we take what they say at face value and don't give them time to ride this out. They quickly learn that this gives them attention and control and becomes their coping mechanism. That's my conclusion anyway.

Absolutely agree with this. Our school follows the affirm only approach, and when I see students with ASD who have had issues with friendships and bullying which was pretty much ignored by the school.

When this student out of the blue announced he was trans and we had to refer to them with their new name and she/her pronouns the school and SENCo almost trampled each other to offer support.

This is a very vulnerable student who now appears hugely popular amongst her peers, but seems to be playing being a female IYKWIM. There is the overuse of pink and feminine items, such as bags, face masks etc. On mufti days she just looks like she’s been playing dress up in her much older sisters wardrobe as everything is overtly sexualised. I worry about her but no-one is willing to listen.

They evidently see facts, science and safeguarding children as "abuse". They're in a parlous position - they've backed themselves into a corner with this and it's going to be difficult to come out as the implications of the GIDs scandal spreads far and wide.