I am embracing virtue signalling pronouns in emails

Thanks 😂 I’m just busy dying my hair to be a blue haired wokie at the moment - it will give the school run a shock! Interesting you’ve just moved towards the more GC point of view. Personally I think the more we can do to make that side of things appear the rational and normal viewpoint the better!

Thank you for your posts @Kanaloa. This thread has been incredibly depressing in its inanity, and as someone who's only recently become GC, I'm actually embarrassed to find myself in the company of most people on this thread.
Thanks for your articulate rationality. It's in incredibly short supply on here.

I was assigned commoner status at birth. However I identify as a member of the royal family so I use the title Princess in all my correspondence for the avoidance of doubt. My pronouns are Her Royal Highness. Although it's sometimes hard to be part of this, the most discriminated against minority groups, I'm proud of my identity.

It's great that Paul is supporting the use of one's preferred pronouns in emails, although I'm puzzled as to why this is usually the only aspect of one's identity given recognition and protection in the workplace. My cousin who was assigned British at birth identifies as Italian so he uses the title Signor. This avoids the confusion caused by his sterotypically British name, Kevin Smith and his ginger hair. However, it seems that his colleagues have great difficulty using his title in meetings. If only more people took your attitude OP our society would be so much more inclusive.

Whether you believe the OP would have been obviously taking the piss or not (wasn't there, can't tell), why has it been accepted that the Proper Thing to do with pronoun changes is to individually raise the matter with members of staff, after they've got it wrong?

This is the kind of attitude to staff that constitutes hostile working environment and it's being accepted because People Who Identify As Kind are perpetrating it.

I agree - I've read loads of posts on the site and feel this is one of the nastiest (in terms of how nasty people are being to each other).

@MisgenderedPaul I’m glad you are here to share your views 😂😂😂

Along with everything else on here. It's a very serious place and we must make due allowance for every conceivable offence to be taken.

She didn't do a good thing: she did the right thing.

😂😂😂

Sometimes I really love MN.

Well, I thought the OP did a good thing

Personally I think these people being encouraged to take themselves less seriously would do everyone a lot of good.

Just because someone disagrees that this behaviour was hilarious and totally amazing

Why all the exaggeration and sneering at what people think is amusing? It's unnecessary. You don't find it funny. Other people do. People watch Dave Chapelle and Ricky Gervais, some of them find it funny, some don't. There are AIBU threads where people have recounted indulging in much worse behaviour in the workplace, with many people egging them on. I fail to see why an anonymous poster talking about mentioning someone's self expressed pronouns in a meeting is completely beyond the pale.

So what is then.? If mockery does not work, asking nicely does not work, gentle criticism does not work, straight saying no does not work, what do you suggest? Descending to the levels of the TRA?

Hope his toes rightly curled! 😂

Of course I think it’s unacceptable. I don’t know how I could tell ‘the TRA’ as a whole but I give my opinions that it’s unacceptable (both on here and in real life).

Just because someone disagrees that this behaviour was hilarious and totally amazing doesn’t mean they’re in agreement with the TRA.

As I said we’re simply not going to agree. I think it wasn’t funny, you don’t seem to be able to see my side, so I don’t think any proper debate is really possible. I’ve said what I think, but you seem to think there’s only people trampling all over women/sending death threats and people ‘hilariously’ mocking random staff at their work who have joined in the stupidity. I think there’s shades of grey in the world. I agree the pronouns are silly, I don’t think mocking one person publicly at work (and saying you don’t have a sense of humour if you don’t find it funny) is the way to challenge the trans movement.

I don't see any reason to get angry and insult people about a story you don't see the funny side of. You do you. This is a broad movement, women are always held to a higher standard than anyone else and never allowed to indulge in even gentle mockery of this patent nonsense which is destroying women's rights. We're expected to be saints while other people can be vile to us and people justify it. No. If you don't approve of the OP, you don't have to join in. But give over with the lectures and tone policing.

So you’ll be telling the TRA that their abuse of women is not acceptable, or is it just women you wish to chastise? Women tried the ‘measured in between’. Some of us are still recovering from the abuse we got. Some people lost their jobs.

. I do not fawn over anyone and I totally respect anyone’s right to disagree with whatever they wish. I would not have done what the OP did, however much I find it funny. It is the hyperbole and hypocrisy that annoys me. We are all just supposed to go along with the pronoun nonsense while nicely asking if we can have our rights back. All these people calling the OP out for ‘bullying’ when it is people who do not subscribe to this ideology that are getting bullied. It feels a lot like DARVO to me

For me the choice isn’t between mocking your colleagues and boasting about it or death threats. I do think there’s a measured in between where you can meet with firm
and respectful debate and protest. No aggression, no passive agressive actions. However, I can see we’re simply not going to agree. You think anyone who isn’t fawning in agreement is an enemy - I’m really not. The trans movement is the opposite of what I stand for. However, that doesn’t mean I think anyone who also disagrees with the trans movement is automatically right in all their behaviours.

Sorry that was abuse and rape threats

So would you prefer is to issue ease and death threats and get people fired like the TRA do? Which is better, gentle mockery or nasty abuse? I mean, one of the bekind lot sent JKR a bomb threat. Is what the OP did worse than that?

Why do you think a trans ally would be embarrassed about his pronouns being mentioned in a meeting, exactly? It seems like a strange assumption to me, thinking that pro-trans people would be upset by people mentioning their self-expressed pronouns, and I'm really not sure why people are so enraged about it, or at other people here for daring to find it mildly amusing.

Do we have to do a Cersei walk of Shame or is just 30 Hail Marys enough?

Having said that, humour is so subjective. So if you were all genuinely giggling away and thinking ‘wow this woman is so so clever, how did she ever think of that clever and hilarious idea’ then I’m glad you enjoyed it. It just isn’t for me. And personally I don’t think anyone’s going to come round to the right way of thinking when this is the attitude that goes with it.

Repent motherfuckers.

No - I’ve explained I also disagree with the trans movement and think pronouns in emails are silly, and pronoun announcements in real life are a waste of everyone’s time.

But I’m not one of those people who will fanatically applaud anyone’s actions just because they agree with me on one topic. I simply said in a measured way that I thought op behaved unprofessionally. I also didn’t think it was ‘so funny and clever.’ There really wasn’t anything funny about it, was there? And I don’t think the best way to argue your point on the trans issues is to single someone out in a meeting you’re running then gleefully skip to mumsnet to have everyone fawn over you and nominate a fairly dull story for classics as if it was hilarious.

Although plenty of people have thrown insults and sneering comments - no sense of humour/dreary/blue haired ‘wokie’ etc. Just because someone disagrees that op is a hilarious clever little darling doesn’t mean they’re part of or agree with the current trans movement. I don’t. And whenever it comes up I share my opinion with others about how damaging it is to women’s and girls’ rights. But I do it respectfully and in an adult fashion - not by sneering at my colleagues then trying to get others to tell me I’m oh so clever.