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Dave Chappelle “gender is a fact” has show cancelled.

62 replies

Libre2 · 21/07/2022 14:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62249771?at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom3=BBC+News&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=937174EC-08E8-11ED-85D2-434D2152A482

Things are becoming weirder and weirder.

The venue said “we believe in diverse voices” but evidently they really don’t.

Apparently people are cross (to the point of attacking him) because he said trans people are confusing.

OP posts:
RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 20:11

We see you

A) who the fuck is we?

B) who the fuck is you?

Baaaaaa · 21/07/2022 20:08

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 19:55

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

Black comedian Dave Chapelle
Black prime ministerial candidate Kemi Badenoch
Black lesbian Allison Bailey

But it's denial when it comes to dealing with the real racism that sadly comes up on this board too often.

We see you.

Who is we?

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 19:55

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 19:36

There is no trotting around being ‘fair’

you misunderstood the poster you accused of lazy every day racism

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

Black comedian Dave Chapelle
Black prime ministerial candidate Kemi Badenoch
Black lesbian Allison Bailey

But it's denial when it comes to dealing with the real racism that sadly comes up on this board too often.

We see you.

Dave Chappelle “gender is a fact” has show cancelled.
RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 19:36

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

There is no trotting around being ‘fair’

you misunderstood the poster you accused of lazy every day racism

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 19:27

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

Jesus wept. Really? That explains the absolute craven nature of the apology then.

And we are the nasty witches! Fuckwits!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 21/07/2022 19:23

This whole 'safe space' stuff is nonsense.
Why are they needing to be safe from?
(Whilst threatening the children of staff members to force compliance)

People who point out reality?

Libre2 · 21/07/2022 18:51

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 18:38

What they should have said is 'trans activists are threatening the staff and their children so we are left with no other option than to cancel the show. we have reported the threats to the police as a hate crime for hosting a diverse comedian'.

Not made out that hosting a black comedian was unsafe by virtue of his diversity, but that trans activists were making it unsafe.

They chose those words. We get told that if there are threats then to report them, so if there were threats surely there will be receipts to pass onto the police?

Yes absolutely. Why does no one say it as it is?

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SolasAnla · 21/07/2022 18:47

Worrysaboutalot · 21/07/2022 14:50

The 'last minute' cancellation is to prevent him seeking an alternative venue, therefore silencing his voice.

He has fuck around and find out money, I suspect the venue's insurance provider would not be happy to cover any commercial loss created with a breach of contract.
The owners could find themselves working for him or uninsurable.

SpiderVersed · 21/07/2022 18:44

I mean, other than forgetting about C-sections, he's not wrong.

Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. This is a fact

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 18:38

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

What they should have said is 'trans activists are threatening the staff and their children so we are left with no other option than to cancel the show. we have reported the threats to the police as a hate crime for hosting a diverse comedian'.

Not made out that hosting a black comedian was unsafe by virtue of his diversity, but that trans activists were making it unsafe.

They chose those words. We get told that if there are threats then to report them, so if there were threats surely there will be receipts to pass onto the police?

Metabigot · 21/07/2022 18:36

Its the simpering apology by the theatre that irks me the most.

Hopefully this may peak a few people everyone is getting tired of this shit now.

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

ControversialOpening · 21/07/2022 18:30

Dear Clovefeld,

stop digging

TheGreatATuin · 21/07/2022 18:02

In a sign of what a mess this is, I think its far more of a racist dogwhistle to use 'racist dogwhistle' to try shut down someone who is actually calling out racism.
This is the equivalent of a woman complaining about sexist behaviour and then being told her complaint is a sexist dogwhistle because she drew attention to the issue.
What utter, utter nonsense.

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 17:19

If is isn't his skin colour how else is he 'diverse'?

Statement here:

'The First Avenue team and you have worked hard to make our venues the safest spaces in the country, and we will continue with that mission. We believe in diverse voices and the freedom of artistic expression, but in honouring that, we lost sight of the impact this would have.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 17:12

Oh. I see. Is this the one time we should not see skin colour?

They say his show made their space unsafe.

They also mention diversity.

The obvious comment is that a black man should never need to defend himself against cries of lack of diversity, what we it is he is saying out loud.

Or is acknowledging that a bad thing these days? Are we back to the colour blindness of my early childhood - which I am forever told was in and of itself a bad thing.

The point being made stands. Diversity has only one meaning in some places: Trans acceptance with no question.

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:42

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:39

Oh but they do a good grovel... fully quoted in the article/link in the OP!

There's nothing in that BBC article that links his skin colour and "safety".

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 21/07/2022 16:41

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 14:57

'gender is a fact'

nearly there Dave, nearly there

Yes that confused me for a moment.

People are so convinced that “sex” is a rude word.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:39

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

Oh but they do a good grovel... fully quoted in the article/link in the OP!

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:38

BellaAmorosa · 21/07/2022 16:16

The Varsity Theatre has taken the show. Tickets sold out so quickly they added two more shows!
twitter.com/VarsityTheater/status/1549514428676296704?cxt=HHwWgMC--bjK_YArAAAA
So I guess First Avenue did Chapelle a favour.

Good Smile

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:35

She was paraphrasing the bloody venue!

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:38

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:35

Why do you keep mentioning his skin colour and safety?

It's a racist dogwhistle.

Huh? The venue... cites safe spaces, freedom of a diversity of voices. He's a male and he is a person of colour, a black man.

The racism is theirs. As is the bloody hysteria, fear, grovelling!

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 16:35

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:06

That's some lazy, everyday racism right there.

Classic FWR.

She was paraphrasing the bloody venue!

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:35

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 16:21

It's not me saying that the venue is unsafe when a black man performs. That's the venue itself.

Why do you keep mentioning his skin colour and safety?

It's a racist dogwhistle.

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 16:21

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:06

That's some lazy, everyday racism right there.

Classic FWR.

It's not me saying that the venue is unsafe when a black man performs. That's the venue itself.