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Dave Chappelle “gender is a fact” has show cancelled.

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Libre2 · 21/07/2022 14:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62249771?at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom3=BBC+News&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=937174EC-08E8-11ED-85D2-434D2152A482

Things are becoming weirder and weirder.

The venue said “we believe in diverse voices” but evidently they really don’t.

Apparently people are cross (to the point of attacking him) because he said trans people are confusing.

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BettyFilous · 23/07/2022 08:25

Queenoftheashes · 22/07/2022 06:23

Yeah I noticed this too. I was from my mother’s womb untimely ripped, Dave!

Perhaps it’s his phallocentric take on things: act of creation, rather than delivery. 😉

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/07/2022 14:02

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

That's appalling. I also saw a tweet by people who had filmed one of the senior staff of the original theatre going into the show in its new location trying to start a pile on on this woman.

LillithCraneosaurus · 22/07/2022 12:45

As opposed to the racism of the TRA who state black womxn are only women if we include males? Classic TRA lazy everyday racism right there. Why not pop off and discuss casual racism with them.

@Conflictedunicorn I was addressing my remark to Clovefeld and her performative virtue signalling bollocks, which many of us none white people despair of (and increasingly find is making our lives harder).

Libre2 · 22/07/2022 12:39

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

I understood the venue to be referencing diversity in opinion - which is why is seemed so bonkers. I obviously misunderstood. I really didn’t think race had anything to do with this.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 22/07/2022 11:01

jetadore · 22/07/2022 00:14

Bit weird how he’s getting props on here just for saying the ‘right’ mantra about gender when the rest of his act he’ll be referring to us as bitches and ho’s.

Perhaps but no one gets cancelled for they carry on, do they? It's the sacred caste thing again

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 22/07/2022 11:00

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

This question has been asked several times. With no answer yet. So yes, another one here waiting to hear.

We see you? Right back at ya.

LadyAnnabelsTapestries · 22/07/2022 10:42

WillMcAvoy · 22/07/2022 10:38

So you want us not to say that black people are black, while you are calling us racist?
Are you quite well?

I do personally think the terms 'black' as well as 'white' in themselves isn't helpful for describing whole groups of people with different cultural and language roots and backgrounds, but that's a different topic not related to this thread.

WillMcAvoy · 22/07/2022 10:38

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 19:55

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

Black comedian Dave Chapelle
Black prime ministerial candidate Kemi Badenoch
Black lesbian Allison Bailey

But it's denial when it comes to dealing with the real racism that sadly comes up on this board too often.

We see you.

So you want us not to say that black people are black, while you are calling us racist?
Are you quite well?

LadyAnnabelsTapestries · 22/07/2022 10:34

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 15:07

I do think it is a tad racist to suggest that the venue is unsafe if a black man gets on stage and says his choice of words.

Totally agree...the irony though is lost on them.

I am increasingly finding racism only exists when you are black and also happen to say and believe all the right things.

If you don't, then suddenly it's alright to be discriminatory.

PleasantBirthday · 22/07/2022 09:52

LunaLights · 22/07/2022 06:43

@lovelyweathertoday - if women had complained about sexism, they would have been laughed at and told to f* off. Because: women.

Well exactly. And women don't bother getting this kind of thing cancelled. Which I'm OK with, freedom of speech etc. I don't have to like it.

LunaLights · 22/07/2022 06:43

@lovelyweathertoday - if women had complained about sexism, they would have been laughed at and told to f* off. Because: women.

Queenoftheashes · 22/07/2022 06:23

SpiderVersed · 21/07/2022 18:44

I mean, other than forgetting about C-sections, he's not wrong.

Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. This is a fact

Yeah I noticed this too. I was from my mother’s womb untimely ripped, Dave!

lovelyweathertoday · 22/07/2022 06:12

jetadore · 22/07/2022 00:14

Bit weird how he’s getting props on here just for saying the ‘right’ mantra about gender when the rest of his act he’ll be referring to us as bitches and ho’s.

Yes, I watched his show, lots of talk of bitches.

Do you think the theatre cancelled the show because of sexism? Did women say this made them feel unsafe? I don't think so.

Conflictedunicorn · 22/07/2022 06:08

I meant women.

Conflictedunicorn · 22/07/2022 06:08

LillithCraneosaurus · 22/07/2022 02:51

Are you white?

Do you think us people of colour are helped in any way whatsoever by people like you?

As opposed to the racism of the TRA who state black womxn are only women if we include males? Classic TRA lazy everyday racism right there. Why not pop off and discuss casual racism with them.

timeisnotaline · 22/07/2022 05:34

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

That’s a lazy everyday reading comprehension fail right there from @Clovefeld . Unless it is because he’s bald? Hair impaired I suppose, I’m sure it’s a thing somewhere.

Namerchangerextraordinaire · 22/07/2022 03:20

The TRA petition on change.org mentioned in some of the news reports managed to get a whole 128 signatures (after being mentioned in loads of papers) although it only had around 120 when the theatre took it seriously.

Wish all it took was 128 signatures to get anyone to listen to women.

PlantSpider · 22/07/2022 03:15

I wonder how safe it is to go to see one of his shows, as a woman. Can’t help wondering if they’ll be protests outside, ridiculous as it sounds.

Nightlystroll · 22/07/2022 03:13

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

So you couldn't be bothered to read the link in the op but you were comfortable to accuse people of racism without checking that your accusations were correct? I wonder how often you just jump on bandwagons without knowing the full facts of what you're talking about?

LillithCraneosaurus · 22/07/2022 02:51

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:06

That's some lazy, everyday racism right there.

Classic FWR.

Are you white?

Do you think us people of colour are helped in any way whatsoever by people like you?

jetadore · 22/07/2022 00:14

Bit weird how he’s getting props on here just for saying the ‘right’ mantra about gender when the rest of his act he’ll be referring to us as bitches and ho’s.

Mysterioso · 21/07/2022 23:05

Clove, what are you on? It isn't racist to say that a black person is black!
Do the BBC have to say that he is black for it to be true?
A venue touting diversity just cancelled a black man's sell out show.
That should send tongues wagging!

ControversialOpening · 21/07/2022 23:04

TRAs do this.

If you support women’s rights they tell you you’re transphobic. When that doesn’t work they start shouting about racism (despite TRAs own dubious relationship with race issues). They tell people they are homophobic if they won’t defend ‘male lesbians’, and if you’re against conversion therapy of LGB they claim this means you support conversion therapy. If they wave their dicks in your face they tell you not to stare at genitals.

Anything to detract attention away from their own sordid, bullying, narcissistic behaviour.

CrossStichQueen · 21/07/2022 22:04

If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

Maybe cos he's bald?

I think Clover is attempting to paint posters on the FWR board as racist which anyone reading this thread can see that's not the case.

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

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