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Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded

86 replies

eleanorwish · 20/07/2022 14:25

Quite a lot of people commenting on this on Twitter

twitter.com/yougov/status/1549692153365991424?s=21&t=RgKSQ9HhOFGYevLAzDd05g

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TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/07/2022 09:29

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years, the Daily Mail especially have given much support to women's rights.

I’m dubious that the Mail has been publishing five articles on trans topics per day. Not that it really matters, but I’m curious. Where did you get those numbers?

NonnyMouse1337 · 21/07/2022 09:20

This is the only 'civil rights' movement that results in less public acceptance the more people learn about it and are exposed to its activism. I don't think I've seen that with other types of movements. 😂😂
No wonder the Denton's handbook instructs gender activists to sneak around behind everyone's back. They really need an endless supply of dishonesty, threats and manipulation to push their agenda - unlike genuine movements for marginalised groups.

dafunk · 21/07/2022 08:24

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years, the Daily Mail especially have given much support to women's rights.

Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded
Sloebluewalls · 21/07/2022 08:07

the public realise that male bodied people in female spaces create a safeguarding risk. The public realise that male bodied people have the advantage in womens sport. It’s all very sensible stuff, based on statistics and research.

mrshoho · 21/07/2022 07:54

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/07/2022 07:23

Thought this was worth posting again as it clarifies the dangers to women and girls of this judgement and offers the hope that this flawed judgement could be appealed. (Thanks icelolly99 for originally posting it)

sex-matters.org/posts/the-workplace/if-you-cant-say-sex-how-can-you-say-sexual-harassment/

I cannot get my head around the injustice here. Committing offences in plain sight yet they are seen as the victim. What the hell? This is so wrong. What about the female employees who have had their protected space taken away from them? I'm disgusted.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/07/2022 07:23

Thought this was worth posting again as it clarifies the dangers to women and girls of this judgement and offers the hope that this flawed judgement could be appealed. (Thanks icelolly99 for originally posting it)

sex-matters.org/posts/the-workplace/if-you-cant-say-sex-how-can-you-say-sexual-harassment/

bellinisurge · 21/07/2022 07:06

Ides has been spaffing over a few threads.

achillestoes · 21/07/2022 06:34

@Ides

Must you use that language? I’m scared of penises and testicles, after all. You could at least call them “dangly bits” or “man giblets”, and stop traumatising us.

Helleofabore · 21/07/2022 05:53

LunaLights · 21/07/2022 00:49

Ides would save a lot of time by just writing “blah, blah, blah… penis and testicles… phobia” whenever posting. That’s all we ever read out of it, anyway! 🤦🏻🤷🏽‍♀️

Well… sometimes euphemisms get used instead.

Don’t forget the snide remarks about female ‘fragility’ and usually involving ‘shaking in fear’ or a derivative.

Quite the predictable formula.

MangyInseam · 21/07/2022 01:37

LaughingPriest · 20/07/2022 23:39

Phobia of penis and testicles. It's Ides' speciality. Ides has imagined a bunch of stuff about women's opinions of penises - AND testicles - and keeps posting about it - it keeps them busy, I suppose.

Huh, interesting, I really quite like them myself, it never occurred to me to relate them to my thoughts about gender ideology.

LunaLights · 21/07/2022 00:49

Ides would save a lot of time by just writing “blah, blah, blah… penis and testicles… phobia” whenever posting. That’s all we ever read out of it, anyway! 🤦🏻🤷🏽‍♀️

icelolly99 · 21/07/2022 00:01

Read this article open mouthed with disbelief today. Published by Sex Matters. Crazy times!
sex-matters.org/posts/the-workplace/if-you-cant-say-sex-how-can-you-say-sexual-harassment/

LK1972 · 20/07/2022 23:49

LaughingPriest · 20/07/2022 23:39

Phobia of penis and testicles. It's Ides' speciality. Ides has imagined a bunch of stuff about women's opinions of penises - AND testicles - and keeps posting about it - it keeps them busy, I suppose.

Oh yeah, that's true, the testicle-phobia is real and valid, anyone who disagrees is a bigot.

Although, have to give Ides points for originality, don't see testicles mentioned often enough when women are scolded, normally it's just our unwillingness to be exposed to strangers penises that is described as unnatural.

mrshoho · 20/07/2022 23:43

keep up the good work @Ides . You're doing a grand job.

LK1972 · 20/07/2022 23:43

Poll, not study, not that that makes any difference

LaughingPriest · 20/07/2022 23:43

The questions don't make much sense tbh - this one
"Allowing transgender women to use spaces reserved for women does not present a genuine risk of to women".

Seems like they meant to include another word there but it got lost?

And obviously, the definition of 'trans' doesn't make much sense. How can a sex be the same, or different from, a gender? They are separate things.

LK1972 · 20/07/2022 23:41

@Ides Sure, we in this forum are all reactionary Tories and misandrist feminists, and nobody in the real world agrees with us.

In fact, everyone wants men in women's sports, drugs and surgery for GNC kids, and cocks in women's spaces.

Totally the takeaway I have from this latest study.

Do you not think you might need to find better arguments than that, or you think your approach of minimizing women's concerns is working well, but just needs to be cranked up to 11?

LaughingPriest · 20/07/2022 23:39

Phobia of penis and testicles. It's Ides' speciality. Ides has imagined a bunch of stuff about women's opinions of penises - AND testicles - and keeps posting about it - it keeps them busy, I suppose.

VestofAbsurdity · 20/07/2022 23:26

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Yes the issue of women's rights is crucial I fully agree.

What phobia are you talking about?

mrshoho · 20/07/2022 23:16

I also credit JKR with shedding sunlight and reaching out to so many otherwise blissfully unaware Women. Seeing her being publically vilified so viciously made many look further into what all the fuss was about. The author whose books were such a big part of our children's childhood. What could she possibly have said or done that was so upsetting and causing trans groups to demand her to be cancelled? Then the realisation of reading her words and agreeing with them. To JK and all the other brave voices who spoke out Thank you.

Yes the TRAs have brought about their own downfall.

bellinisurge · 20/07/2022 23:16

@VestofAbsurdity , yup. Another good one for today,

Ides · 20/07/2022 23:09

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VestofAbsurdity · 20/07/2022 22:59

Drag Performer banned from National Theatre for their abhorrent 'joke', yes today has been a good day.

FemaleAndLearning · 20/07/2022 22:36

Over 100 comments under the well know transactivists. Everyone saying you did this yourself, you told people to educate themselves and they did!

bellinisurge · 20/07/2022 22:18

Joanna Cherry, Mordaunt out, YouGov poll, Irish Times article. Today is a good day. Many setbacks to come but I'll take today as a good one.