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Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded

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eleanorwish · 20/07/2022 14:25

Quite a lot of people commenting on this on Twitter

twitter.com/yougov/status/1549692153365991424?s=21&t=RgKSQ9HhOFGYevLAzDd05g

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Helleofabore · 26/07/2022 17:45

Helleofabore · 26/07/2022 17:40

Yes cursedE has a habit of talking about penis in a way that you would not expect for someone supposedly so dysphoric and ‘vulnerable’.

Or as you would expect from someone who categorises themselves as a woman….

Helleofabore · 26/07/2022 17:40

Yes cursedE has a habit of talking about penis in a way that you would not expect for someone supposedly so dysphoric and ‘vulnerable’.

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:39

MoltenLasagne · 26/07/2022 17:34

Jane Fae who thinks access to extreme porn is a human right Jane Fae?
The Jane Fae who as John Ozimek wrote a guide to avoiding arrest for extreme porn users?
The Jane Fae who thinks that the murder of women is just domestic violence gone wrong and caused by "one too many eggshell skulls"?
The Jane Fae who defended Ian Huntley's right to identify as a transwoman and said any discussion of his "maleness" was transphobia?
No idea why that person would be scared of people becoming suspicious of underlying motives. Their just a harmless knitter aren't they?

SO VULNERABLE.

Love this video of Julie Bindel putting JF in their place.

Helleofabore · 26/07/2022 17:38

CursedE? Balanced? Trustworthy?

I am certainly not buying whatever dream someone is selling there. Quite the opposite.

How interesting though, they gathered the opinions of some of the most extreme and aggressive people for this article. Anyone reading the timeline of the opinions of most of those interviewed would be seeing some pretty eye opening stuff that would probably not further that group’s cause at all.

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:35

I can't face writing about Katy Montgomerie after all that. I'm sure we're all familiar with their abusive posts and lies and hyperbole.

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:34

The author of this piece, CursedE, has long been known to be a creep. So much so they've been banned from twitter seceral times. Likes to talk about their dick a lot in relation to women's toilets.

Twitter thread with screenshots of some of the disgusting things they have said:

"I would ask why you didn't do any due dilligence before employing CursedE, but when do you ever?

Here follows a ahort thread showing what a creepy, abusive misogynist they are. I did your job for you in about 15 minutes. You're welcome!"

t.co/jf0XplGBf9

And Glinner has written about them too.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/farewell-buffalo-bill

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/white-male-privilege-in-2021

MoltenLasagne · 26/07/2022 17:34

Jane Fae who thinks access to extreme porn is a human right Jane Fae?
The Jane Fae who as John Ozimek wrote a guide to avoiding arrest for extreme porn users?
The Jane Fae who thinks that the murder of women is just domestic violence gone wrong and caused by "one too many eggshell skulls"?
The Jane Fae who defended Ian Huntley's right to identify as a transwoman and said any discussion of his "maleness" was transphobia?
No idea why that person would be scared of people becoming suspicious of underlying motives. Their just a harmless knitter aren't they?

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:29

Reminder that Jane Fae supports extreme pornography and take a look at what they had to say about the murder of women in this screenshot.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2014/10/27/comment-anti-porn-laws-allow-police-to-target-those-they-dont-like/

Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded
ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:10

Katy Montgomerie and Jane Fae! Anyone buying their "I'm so scared and vulnerable" act? Cause I'm bloody well not!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/yougov-polled-the-public-about-trans-rights-heres-how-trans-people-feel-about-it_uk_62daa0c7e4b000da23ff4545

ScreamingMeMe · 26/07/2022 17:05

The Huffington Post beclowns itself:

YouGov polled the public about trans rights, but trans people were left out of the conversation. Today, we're proudly leading @HuffPostUKLife with this article from Gemma Stone (@notCursedE), speaking to members of the community about the findings
1/ t.co/V3cPVgEN8h

Every interviewee said the media was to blame for the erosion of support for trans access rights since 2018. As @KatyMontgomerie said:"Every trans person in the UK at the moment is living in a state of fear, and we don’t even have the platforms to put forward our side of things."

Thanks also to @TransMediaWatch, @BernieTranders, @trans_safety and @EvaEch0 for trusting Gemma to write this and me to edit this for HuffPost, at a time when a lot of people in the media are being total shitters 3/3.

Conflictedunicorn · 21/07/2022 23:12

KM is to authority as BJ is to the truth

Helleofabore · 21/07/2022 22:42

Montgomery tantrums all too often. I always laugh though when posters link anything Montgomery says in an appeal to authority.

ThickCutSteakChips · 21/07/2022 17:20

Katy Montgomerie tatrumming that 'repeat after us, transwomen are women' has not worked as expected...

mrshoho · 21/07/2022 17:10

icelolly99 · 21/07/2022 11:16

This has also reminded me of this horrendous story from earlier this year.
Read it and weep!

www.google.com/amp/s/www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744.amp

This horror brought out the true absurdity of the TRAs demands. Every single step was just wrong. The man should not have been in a protected space to start with. Then to deny the rape had happened as there were no men on the women's ward. The most diabolical part for me was expecting people to say the rapist was a woman. This still enrages when I think how fucking ridiculous this crap is.

Has the NHS taken the necessary action to prevent this from happening again?

Keir Starmer please remind me what is a woman?

Metabigot · 21/07/2022 16:12

I think the recent Macy Gray debacle may have peaked some people. I do wonder if she deliberately overdid the televised apology to peak people. She looked like a hostage victim.

Refreshingly, once a few people point out the emperor has no clothes it seems to give permission for others to break out of the mass hypnosis and question this shit so it does seem to have gained traction.

And it can't come bloody soon enough!

bellinisurge · 21/07/2022 15:01

The only news programme I have seen/heard that digs deeper than firing off no brainier "what is a woman?" questioning is The Nolan Report. Occasionally Newsnight does it too.
The what is a woman question just plays to the "that's just a dog whistle" crowd without proper follow up and interrogation.
It doesn't inform people who have steered clear of it so far.
The Nolan Report should be required listening for every journalist before they ask any questions.

secular111 · 21/07/2022 13:21

I wonder how the TRA/incels will respond to these figures?

More death/rape threats issued? More Black Pamper attendance at events? Perhaps express more 'all GC women are literal Nazi's!' determinations?

Key events seem to result in exponential drops in support for the TRA/incel cause. The Kathleen Stock scandal was one recent event which caused serious damage. Likewise the Black Pamper activity in Manchester and Bristol. In reality there are dozens of events worldwide that provoked a drop-off in support for the TRA/incels. Lia Thomas contributed hugely to current attitudes.

The next major event is likely to be the Mermaids vs. LGB Alliance/Charity Commissioners High Court case which will enable the LGBA to publicise its activities to a wider audience, particularly its new film 'Queens'. That case will likely be recognised as being a distinct homophobic attack on Britain's gay, lesbian and bisexual community in an effort to silence it and prevent it from organising. In its defence the LGBA will be able to draw attention to its core campaign against 'transing-the-gay' - crystalised in its film

Yougov study - attitudes to transgender rights have eroded
Metabigot · 21/07/2022 12:40

Didn't twatter used to ban / delete/ restrict any GC type posts? It certainly seems to have changed recently loads of GC stuff on there now which is heartening.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/07/2022 12:38

from previous posts by dafunk I think they think they're being clever and ironic, and are hoping we agree with the statement that Daily Mail is pro-women rights,

I haven’t even seen any previous posts from them but I still picked up on that. 😁 Super clever indeed!

And yea, I thought those numbers sounded like total bullshit. Now it’s confirmed from a TRA source, I’m assuming they probably did a search for “trans” on the Daily Mail site and included articles about trans fats, trans atlantic trade and heart transplants in their article count.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2022 12:16

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years

Yes, I am Smile

dafunk · 21/07/2022 11:44

@dafunk Papers publish what sells the papers, that is what people want to read about, measured by clicks and comments. Surely you know that.

As long as the glorious sunlight continues flooding in I'm happy 😊

LK1972 · 21/07/2022 11:40

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/07/2022 09:29

We should be thankful of the media for increasing their coverage over the last couple of years, the Daily Mail especially have given much support to women's rights.

I’m dubious that the Mail has been publishing five articles on trans topics per day. Not that it really matters, but I’m curious. Where did you get those numbers?

These are from those highly reliable TRAs, and from previous posts by dafunk I think they think they're being clever and ironic, and are hoping we agree with the statement that Daily Mail is pro-women rights, so they can have a laugh on twatter about it with their mates.

@dafunk Papers publish what sells the papers, that is what people want to read about, measured by clicks and comments. Surely you know that. Yes, there've increase in articles about these issues, because as people are confronted with this bullshit in their lives and workplaces and told to educate themselves they obediently want to, so click on articles more and more. Shame that, isn't it, the papers should be educating people in the CORRECT way, like Pravda

FemaleAndLearning · 21/07/2022 11:38

Really hope those women feel they can come forward and get a case for sexual harrasment. They need to know that their legal costs would be covered by the thousands of supportive women.

potniatheron · 21/07/2022 11:27

The more that people learn about what TRAs actually want, the less they like what they see. TRAs always knew this which is why they tried to sneak their demands in by the back door (Dentons, #nodebate etc). Unfortunately, being mostly the misogynists that they are, they forgot that women aren't stupid.

icelolly99 · 21/07/2022 11:16

This has also reminded me of this horrendous story from earlier this year.
Read it and weep!

www.google.com/amp/s/www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744.amp