trans supporters and tactics

Because of the deliberate obscuring of language by the media and other institutions, I can't take what used to be the reporting of perfectly straightforward words like woman, female or lesbian at face value now.

Too many news articles which say a 'woman' did something horrendous which proves in fact to be a male.

So no, I can't take those articles on face value. Blame the 'queering' of language.

Women not wanting men in their toilets, and men ignoring that and going anyway, and the unintended consequences of women then being kicked out of their own toilets, is the fault of MEN not women.

That's hilarious, even funnier some people say things like this and mean it haha

1. the only way women could ever be mistaken for trans women is if trans women DO start using women's toilets on a regular basis.

2. I find it really hard to believe that there actually exist many women who can't tell the difference.

There seems to be a big push amongst some trans women to dismiss "butch" women as not actual women. This was most notable after JKR hosted her lunch, and twitter was awash with "well I'm more of a woman than THAT!" comments. Presumably because their mere existence discredits the whole ideology. To use their own terminology, it seems some TRAs are trying to eradicate butch women. Which is literal genocide.

All in the US, what a surprise.

These ones too?

www.reuters.com/article/us-lawsuit-gender-idUSN1341998020080513

www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/18/this-cis-woman-experienced-transphobia-in-a-target-bathroom-and-she-was-shaken-to-the-core-video/

www.newstimes.com/local/article/Woman-mistaken-for-transgender-harassed-in-7471666.php

The contradictions are legion.

Another tactic is usually by teenage boys who pretend to anti fascist and claim that women standing up for women's rights is fascism.

Gosh, if only a certain very vocal group didn't continuously conflate 'female' and 'feminine' then perhaps people wouldn't be so confused about what a woman is.
Seems to me like perhaps the GC feminists trying hard to unpick this conflation might actually help situations like those reported in inews, but of course that'd be right-wing and bigoted.

Ah yes, that's another good one. "Female people will be punished for not being feminine if they go in female toilets, therefore we can't have single-sex toilets. But also being a woman is about how feminine you are or aren't, and that's far easier to segregate toilets by."

Yes.

"I went into the bathroom and came out after loudly being yelled at that I was ‘a pervert.’"

inews.co.uk/news/uk/butch-lesbian-public-toilet-women-abuse-government-review-gender-neutral-facilities-833787

Are you saying this woman is lying?

Whilst simultaneously using words like "dead name" 🙄

😅I really hope this is a wind up, although these days you just never know.

That women have more important things to address than "gender neutral" language. And that the same things are happening to the language around men's health issues (or will be, when they get round to it). inews.co.uk/opinion/there-are-real-problems-for-womens-healthcare-gender-neutral-language-isnt-one-of-them-1744602.

Anybody know if the i paper accepts online comments on articles? I take the print version.

Act like an arsehole on FWR, upsetting women, until you finally get banned, everyone breathes a sigh of relief, but then turn up again under a different incarnation being just as goady.

Or act like an arsehole on FWR, upsetting women whilst claiming you don't want to be here at all and are desperate to see some real feminism, somehow don't get banned, and just when you become notorious to all regular users as a goady, sea lioning arsehole, name change. Repeat this process again and again until we all start to question the point of our existence

“If you want single sex spaces, why don’t you set up your own?”
Women did.

unherd.com/2022/07/why-im-suing-survivors-network/

Alongside lies and misrepresentation of the Equality Act 2010 of what case-by-case and “discrimination can be justified if the person who's discriminating against you can show it's a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim” actually means.

Nice to see the real-time examples in the thread! I am sure lurkers will appreciate it.

Trans women are just like Black women, therefore feminists who object to men in women's spaces are racists

When you break this down, it's actually people arguing in a circle. It's a really common logical error. It's obvious if you write it out, but because the assumed premise isn't set out formally - TWAW - a lot of people don't realize that they are using a premise as their conclusion.

It's a bit of a window into how easy it is for many people to make errors like this without realizing it.

There's also an element where many people are actually afraid to challenge premises they have been given if they are told they are the basis of social justice. They function as completely unquestionable dogma.

Fair enough.

Today for example, although I’m wearing a summer dress and sandals I am also in the office running a department in a bank. This is not traditionally female, hence my coming firmly under the trans banner.

Yesterday I wore my husband’s shirt. That’s cross-dressing, also trans.

I like to think I’m doing my bit to widen what it means to be a woman.

My husband will be cooking dinner tonight. Also trans.

Lol the irony went over my head :D

I’m not a trans activist though, just a normal female who doesn’t happen to identify with all of the stereotypes of either sex, so am non-binary.

The rage and anger that comes out when women assert boundaries is quite astonishing. So many men can't handle it when women say no.

Can you not find your own campaign to poison, and leave trans to ourselves?

Lol, if only trans activists would stop foisting their ideology on everyone else people would be happy to leave trans to themselves.

New one from Twitter today - 'we need her to be sacked'. I also saw a condescending prick yesterday complacently tell women that anyone who didn't agree that TWA literally W should be sacked from employment. Other people's comments/facts/legal precedents were simply ignored.

The authoritarian tone of all this crap is what galls me. Males in particular seem to think that if they say something confidently enough that it's an absolute truth and shouldn't/can't be challenged.

I've just tried to order this from the library.
Unfortunately none of the libraries stock it so I can't even order it from another branch.