Devon carnival forced to apologise for unofficial float

She added: 'I suppose the fact that they accepted it so readily shows how little awareness there is of trans issues in our local community. At the time I was shocked, angry, sad - and afraid. I started to wonder, what if people noticed I was trans and started mocking me, or worse?

Does it not occur to Donna that the reason they were there,and accepted is because of how MUCH awareness there is in the community, not how little? As for, "what if people noticed I'm trans.." Donna, love, everyone can tell at a single glance. Nobody thinks you're a woman..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11017065/Men-dressed-female-athletes-town-carnival-hit-transphobia-claim.html

As if this couldn't get better. The marvellous Maurice COCKwill, leader of the lady runners, ain't backing down. He was an athletics coach and was making a serious point that's now national.

Another question worth raising is why Donna is so fearful of being attacked. Is Donna conceding that, unlike the myth peddled, tw are actually very easily distinguishable from women? It certainly implies that Donna accepts this, because otherwise.....how would anyone know Donna is a tw?

It's such a mystery. We keep being told we're sharing facilities already with the Donnas of this world, and we have no idea they're there, they blend in so well.

No ya don't.

Haha! 😂

The problem is those photos don’t clearly show their pronouns

Having read the DM version and seen a picture of the complainant, I have to say the float is more woman than he/she is!

Precisely! I mean how does she know how they identify. Surely that was a bunch of women running - what is a woman after all?

DM article where you can read comments:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11013313/Town-carnival-forced-issue-grovelling-apology-float-deemed-transphobic-trans-woman.html

"Belovedfool · Today 09:38
So these are men in drag, according to the complainant? Doesn't that make them trans, according to stonewall?
How transphobic of the complainant.
Shockingly so."

I have been told if a man wears a dress then assume he is a trans woman and don't ask questions. Questioning is offensive to the trans woman after all you don't go up to a woman and ask if she is a woman or go to a man and ask if he is a man so I follow that premise. I just take it that any man in a dress is now a trans woman because I am doing everything I can to ensure I don't accidentally think it might be just a man taking the piss out of women and offend a trans woman who is a genuine woman.

So these are men in drag, according to the complainant? Doesn't that make them trans, according to stonewall?

How transphobic of the complainant.

Shockingly so.

"Whatwouldscullydo · Today 07:28
So when a small child sees a semi erect penis the advice is to stop looking/stop being a pervert by staring at someone's genitals.
But if tras see a float they don't like they have to throw a tantrum until they get am apology.
TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE MATE. STOP LOOKING"

Solid advice there.

These men dressed up in drag might be trans women - who's to judge? So a drag person is able to automatically tell if another man in a dress is a genuine trans woman or not. How odd. I didn't realise it was that obvious. The points made about the 2024 Olympics are valid surely. It is only one way and transwomen are able to decide what is ok and which people are genuine trans women and which are taking the piss (literally)

Tell me which of Blanchard's typologies applies, without telling me which of Blanchard's typologies applies

Maybe the ‘bunch of blokes’ are offended by drag queens? Since they won’t listen to offended women, maybe if the ‘blokes’ complained we’d get somewhere?

It looks as though it was actually very trans-inclusive. Cross-dressing is included under the trans umbrella now, and so these are trans women who, as the activists tell us, are women.

Hopefully Landry will be all over this, persuading Devon council to cancel any proposed drag queen story time, etc, given how upsetting and concerning it is to see 'a bunch of blokes in drag'.

“The committee is very sorry for how this has made people feel and very much hopes that all concerned are assured of our best intentions.”

Don’t worry, committee, you didn’t get around to asking how I and other women feel, but I feel FINE about this entry.

Idly wonders when the apologies will be forthcoming from all the councils offending women by wedging drag queens into every possible venue - especially children's venues.... anyone???...... no?? .....

Do feel a bit sorry for the council as the float wasn't authorised and apparently just snuck on the back of it after it started, so they never actually gave it the green light but they have to apologise anyway. I do think the float was funny but I think heat directed at them is misinformed.

I’m remembering the float of men in dresses (or was it dressed as nurses?) who raised money for a hospital but it was refused as it was sexist (must’ve been dressed as nurses). All the howls of ‘it’s just a joke!’

I wonder why the times is writing about it again, a month after it all happened and the statement was issued?

Also, while they only apologised for 'how it made people feel', they did say they would not have approved it had it been entered properly.

That said, I wonder how the float organisers knew they needed to tag on unofficially, rather than entering properly!

Or a huffy and humourless person with no sense of humour. I haven’t seen their ‘comical stylings’ but assume it’s not amusing.

How do they know they were just blokes dressed up. This "comedian" could be completely misgendering them and missing the political point they're trying to make

How do I find the comments? The article was great!