Is CIS a legal term?

No, but unless as MN would have you believe that everyone else are raging misogynist out to deny your identity (ironic really as they are doing the denying), the fact we are using it in schools isnt for the fun.

It has no legal standing. Organisations can adopt all manner of internal policies. It doesn’t automatically give them credence, intellectual heft, or legal weight.

I think people on Mumsnet would certainty claim it is happening! But it's not a legal term. That's kind of the point

I see your point there.

But I dont think you need a word for 'doesn't believe in trans', do you? are we not already being hurtful enough?

Or we work in a place that uses it after it being made official in an in service day. We dont all live in tbe world of Mn where claim it isnt happening.

This is how I see it but my brother said if I'm happy to be described as a straight woman I should also accept cis woman. It's accepting many forms of sexuality descriptors but also then many women descriptors. I can't articulate it in a way he understands.

Sexuality is not an inherent, fixed biological trait. It is a preference. Unchanging for some, more fluid for others. Someone's sexuality is determined by the sex of the partners they choose to have sex with, not by their dna.

Whereas sex is innate, immutable, binary and can be determined even in people long dead. There simply aren't more than two sexes. The use of the term cis implies that that there are women who were born women and women who weren't. This is categorically untrue, regardless of what anyone chooses to wear or call themselves, and regardless of which set of outdated, regressive sex-based stereotypes they think fit them best.

Of course it is.

Anyone who says its isn't has their own agenda

In other words it doesnt suit your agenda. Why is not analogous?

I don’t actually have an agenda about the word “cis” other than I shouldn’t be forced to adopt it for myself. I could t care less how many people identify as cis. But I don’t.

It’s not analogous to someone labelling your lack of religious belief “atheism”, because atheism is the word for lack of religious belief. “Cis” isn’t the word for a lack of gender identity.

A ciswoman or man is someone who identifies as the sex they were born as.

Ni we’ve been told many, many times that being cis means having a gender identity that matches your birth gender (sex). If you don’t have any gender identity you cannot be cis.

In other words it doesnt suit your agenda. Why is not analogous?

Yeah, maybe, or it might just be that they dont agree. That is allowed.

It may not be law but it is I official use.

I have never, ever heard it cause so much offence outwith Mn.

Its probably more that you haven’t heard women voice their reasoned objections elsewhere. People are scared for their jobs.

I'm an atheist - is that offensive to me because I'm labelled as something in relation to an ideology I dont believe in?

It’s not analogous.

A trans woman is a man who identifies as a woman.

A trans man is a woman who ide tifies as a man.

A ciswoman or man is someone who identifies as the sex they were born as.
It's not ddifficult. You might not agree with it, I would disagree but I respect hour right to , but pretending it doesnt make sense/is nonsense makes intelligent woman look somewhat silly.

Someone has told your friend this for nefarious purposes.

No, it's not, and she needs to understand that "be kind" applies to everyone, including those who don't wish to have that label applied to them.
Not just the one's advocating compelled speech.

It is in schools I s Scotland

I judge people who call people ignorant wankers for using s completely legitimate term. It's not all about you.

Its loaded if you choose to believe it is.

It just means you identify with the gender you were born into the sex of
And before anyone tells me its misogynistic theres cismen.

I have never, ever heard it cause so much offence outwith Mn.

I'm an atheist - is that offensive to me because I'm labelled as something in relation to an ideology I dont believe in?

cid even autocorrect knows its not a word

Would love to know who that was, I refuse to be described as a cid woman and the background of who coined the term would be useful to know

It's in the latest training on LGBTQI+ in schools to be used. (Certainly in Scotland)

The definition given is always that it means that your “gender identity” matches you “birth gender”. You have to have a gender identity in the first place, and assume that “birth gender” means “sex” for it to even start to apply.

No matter how hard I try, I can’t summon up a scintilla of “gender identity”.

Moreover, I don’t accept the societal expectations attached to biological sex anyway, and never did. I don’t think I’m alone in this.

So, no, I don’t think “cis” is analogous to “straight”.

I actually do find the word straight offensive because it derives from gay people being called bent. Bent implies something is damaged and is therefore homophobic (and don't even get me started on queer).

I'm pretty sure "straight" was to contrast with "bent" - the old derogatory term for gay. Maybe not so inoffensive 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm not sure what you mean by 'a legal term' but 'cisgender' is in the Oxford English Dictionary.