Is CIS a legal term?

There's a lot of trantumming going on here

I suspect the problem is I am too educated. I was an early adopter, back in 2004. Saw the transwomen I knew as women, the non-binaries as non-binary and all that. "Woman" was a gender identity.

But female and male weren't. And they aren't going to be.

@Flolawri is't the only one being 'arrogant'. Seems its okay if youre on the right side of the debate.

I know. I take it back, after the latest posts!

I'm cisgender as I was born female, and my gender identity is female. Does this make sense?

Not to me. You are using "female" to mean two different things, and I don't know what your second meaning is.

Just get a bit pissed off when people aren't accepting, that's all. To be honest, they are being ignorant as they're not wanting to be educated on the topic.

Are you for real?

Whatever. Please leave me alone.

To be honest, they are being ignorant as they're not wanting to be educated on the topic
The fucking arrogance of that

No, I made it up so I could look dead cool on MN.

You dont apepear to do grown up conversations. Youve been patronising and dismissive and I'm no longer interested in engaging with you.

Okay, you're right. You're so right. Well done you. Happy? Brilliant. Please get off my back.

and no, i'm not accepting that at all. I'm just fed up of your rudeness.

The random sperm determines the sex of the embryo. 'Assign' has a connotation of a deliberate choice. It's simply the wrong word.

"How dare you not accept what I tell you! I'm educating you here! Obviously, the same doesn't apply to me. Don't be so pernickety and expect me to show you where it says so in the law."

"Stomp about" "utter bollocks" "obtuse".

I don't think I'm the one being rude, beauty.

For example, a trans person could be born male, but their gender identity is female. They'd be a transwoman.

I'm cisgender as I was born female, and my gender identity is female.

Does this make sense? My gender identity matches my sex.

Just get a bit pissed off when people aren't accepting, that's all. To be honest, they are being ignorant as they're not wanting to be educated on the topic.

anyone on here claiming they would tell the headtescher they're not using the word and stomp about is talking utter bollocks and you know it.

Are you sure you're a teacher? I would expect to have a grown-up conversation (I don't "stomp about").

It seems you are accepting the standards don't say what you thought they said, anyway.

You're being really rude, btw.

@Flolawri , argh, come on.

There's not many of us on the "other side" of the debate and we need to hang on to the little bit of credibility we have - don't be rude to people!

What?? There's no assigning of sex done by egg and sperm. One random sperm is first to break through the egg and fertilise it. If it is carrying an X chromosome the resulting embryo will be female. If it is carrying a Y chromosome then it is male. No assigning happens.

That's exactly what they do.

You're being obtuse here.

What we say behind closed doors is one thing (although I support trans and the words so it doesnt wffect me) but anyone on here claiming they would tell the headtescher they're not using the word and stomp about is talking utter bollocks and you know it.

that is a hang over from paper forms, when tedious individuals would put in "yes please" if it asked for sex.

Sex is male or female.

@Flolawri how rude to call people disagreeing with you and explaining why, ignorant. It makes you seem very intolerant of differing opinions and also incapable of explaining or defending your own position.

Yes, yes I believe google is used when questions of law are made and enacted.

Google the gtcs standards in Scotland .I'm not allowed to say I'm an atheist or that I vote for Nicola Sturgeon. We have had professional standards for years, you can't change that just because you don't like peoles' opinions.

Ok, I did.

They don't mention "cis" (or "trans", for that matter).

As for "I'm not allowed to say I'm an atheist or that I vote for Nicola Sturgeon" there is nothing obvious in the standards but I assume that as in England you are not allowed to share your political views WITH THE CHILDREN. (Did you miss that detail?)

Oh, and the standards also require:

• critically examining professional beliefs, values and attitudes of self and others
• challenging assumptions, biases and professional practice.

Using google, the page I think you're quoting?

It has this at the top.

Please note that we are aware that the terminology used in relation to the recognition of people’s sexual orientation or gender identity may depend on the context of its use. Some people may define some terms differently to us. We have tried to use terminology that is generally accepted. No offence or omission is intended.

Please find below the definitions we have used.

It's not exactly defined in statute, is it?