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Friends producer apologising for trans storyline from 20 years ago.

89 replies

Metabigot · 10/07/2022 17:14

An example of how the narrative is being controlled? Sorry for the pink news link but this has been reported widely

www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/07/08/friends-trans-marta-kauffman-chandler-parent-misgender/

So people have to atone for any wrong think even from 20 years ago now? Even before the trans issue was even on the mainstream radar?

Do we do this with other marginalised groups who have been represented poorly on TV shows or films in the psst? Black characters? Gay characters? Apologise two decades later for doing something which wasn't even a thing then ? ( in this case misgendering).

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BigDayToday · 10/07/2022 18:11

The character was made up, yes? So why doesn't the maker-upper get to 'assign' gender and pronouns to the character they made up?

PriamFarrl · 10/07/2022 18:08

It does jar when you watch it now, but like so many old series you have to watch it with the understanding of the time.

beastlyslumber · 10/07/2022 18:08

Kathleen Turner as Chandler's dad was just genius. The whole storyline was funny and awful (for Chandler).

It sucks that people are apologising for anything in Friends. It was funny! I hate all this ridiculous woke purity bollocks. As if we've got everything right now and we just need to erase the past so as not to show ourselves up.

NellesVilla · 10/07/2022 18:07

Not this old chestnut again. So utterly ridiculous- is there nothing else to froth up about??

Isaidnoalready · 10/07/2022 18:04

Thought it was delt with ok I mean confused kid drag parent hostile exes seemed legit to me

FrippEnos · 10/07/2022 18:01

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 10/07/2022 17:41

It's bigoted qnd misgendering to assume all cross dressers are trans.

cross dressing people have already been assimilated under the trans umbrella

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 10/07/2022 17:41

It's bigoted qnd misgendering to assume all cross dressers are trans.

CrossPurposes · 10/07/2022 17:39

Marta Kauffman has also endowed a Professorship in African and African American Studies as a way of apologising for the lack of diversity in Friends.

www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-06-29/friends-diversity-marta-kauffman-brandeis-university

Wanderingowl · 10/07/2022 17:37

Thinking about it. All the lesbians at Carol and Susan's wedding were cis! Not one single stunning and brave transwoman in attendance. Were Carol and Susan evil terfs? I think they must have been!

Metabigot · 10/07/2022 17:28

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 17:23

I thought Charles Bing was a drag Queen, not a transwoman.

There probably wasnt even the word then. Still, drag queen is still fair game for TRA propaganda machine, they will probably say the character SHOULD have been recognised as a transwoman even during that time so apologise more bigots!

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Preeeschooler · 10/07/2022 17:27

I heard this on the radio today and it really confused me because I’m sure Caitlin jenners kids still call them ‘dad’.

i think it’s quite common among actual trans people and seems a massive over reaction. Firing someone for taking the piss out of their trans colleague - absolutely right, but apologising for something that’s not a big deal even now and certainly wasn’t 20 years ago just feels bizzare.

bellinisurge · 10/07/2022 17:25

Me too @achillestoes

orangeisthenewpuce · 10/07/2022 17:25

My eyes just roll at this type of pointless rubbish

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 17:23

I thought Charles Bing was a drag Queen, not a transwoman.