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Penny Mordant's bid for leadership is surely over

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ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 17:00

Her obfuscation over her views on the trans issue in a long and rather disingenuous twitter thread earlier has brought a "senior Whitehall official," incensed by the perceived duplicity, out to say this:

"A senior Whitehall official gets in touch about Mordaunt and the maternity bill. “She fought AGAINST the change to ‘women’. The way she’s trying to rewrite history to suit her is despicable. While she’s supposedly campaigning on character and values. can’t believe the hypocrisy”

twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1546158477738971138

We all could see when it was happening it was only the steadfastness of the Lords that got the words woman and mother back in to the legislation.

On top of the that she used footage of the late Jo Cox rather cynically earlier too in a bout of self-promotion.

She has no judgement at all and her relationship with the truth seems rather strained. As the first comment in the thread says this is surely her Andrea Leadsom moment.

Penny Mordaunt should step-down before she does any more damage.

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Signalbox · 11/07/2022 07:43

FitAt50 · 10/07/2022 20:53

I think she will do very well and will probably be in the final 2.

You might be right. Dishonesty certainly didn’t prevent Boris from doing well (for a time at least).

achillestoes · 11/07/2022 06:52

Going to have to be a little bit fair to PM: she did defend Kathleen Stock and condemn the balaclava-clad nutters on Sussex campus. She was unequivocal about it, so she deserves credit for that.

Olderbadger1 · 11/07/2022 00:22

Love Lord Hunts' quiet background mutter (through a twitter loudhailer). "I rather think it was me". Perfect.

Mollyollydolly · 11/07/2022 00:05

It show naivety on her part to think she could get away with an outright untruth when we all followed it at the time. It was well documented. And it was only a few months ago. Our memories are longer than goldfish.

rogdmum · 10/07/2022 22:17

ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 21:13

"Multiple sources tell me Liz Truss, Nadine Dorries and Chloe Smith all fought to get the word "mother" reinserted into the bill against fierce resistance from Mordaunt, who advocated "pregnant person". As one Tory put it, "She thinks some women have penises""

twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1546046734605975553

If the Tories vote another liar into No 10 they will deserve to lose heavily in the next GE. Hopefully most of them will cotton onto that sooner rather than later.

Lord Hunt does not seem impressed by Penny Mordaunt’s claim:

“I rather think it was me,
@LordLucasCD
and other colleagues in the @UKHouseofLords who got the Bill amended”

twitter.com/lordphilofbrum/status/1546220209924722689?s=21&t=GsdbovaE56v6AZWI25sAkg

ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 21:35

There's a daft article by Allison Pearson in the Telegraph about Mordaunt and both Mordaunt and Pearson are being vilified in the comments. It is a delight to see. I assume will be read by most MPs too.

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ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 21:13

"Multiple sources tell me Liz Truss, Nadine Dorries and Chloe Smith all fought to get the word "mother" reinserted into the bill against fierce resistance from Mordaunt, who advocated "pregnant person". As one Tory put it, "She thinks some women have penises""

twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1546046734605975553

If the Tories vote another liar into No 10 they will deserve to lose heavily in the next GE. Hopefully most of them will cotton onto that sooner rather than later.

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achillestoes · 10/07/2022 21:02

@FitAt50

She’ll do well. She’s more compelling than Shapps (but who isn’t?), less weepy than Tugendhat, more charismatic than Javid, more experienced than Sunak, more well-known (and saner) than Braverman, less hated than Patel.

But this will still sink her. It will just take a bit longer.

FitAt50 · 10/07/2022 20:53

I think she will do very well and will probably be in the final 2.

Bernadettebleu · 10/07/2022 20:30

Wow, I can’t believe that her brother was engaged to professional misogynist David Paisley, as noted in that Twitter thread. That explains a LOT. I assume said brother and the delightful Mr Paisley have now parted ways hence Penny’s climb down.

Sorry Penny, too late. We’ve seen you. Hope all the virtue cookies you got from David and your friends at Pink News were worth it. Your taking the side of the men’s rights activists will likely cost you the chance to be Prime Minister. Absolutely no less than you deserve after throwing women under the bus then hoping we would all be too stupid to remember.

i hope it serves as a lesson to every handmaiden out there trying to advance her career by siding with men.

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 20:29

@ChristinaXYZ

Too kind 😊

ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 20:18

And can I just say @achillestoes💐for some of the best comments on some of the best threads over the last few weeks!

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GreenLunchBox · 10/07/2022 20:11

She also featured Oscar Pretorius (who murdered his girlfriend) and Jo Cox (a murdered female MP) in her campaign video. Really showing her feminist credentials there!

twitter.com/queenofswords6/status/1546130388812169219?t=7s3oWJNDPVzocniVkzCA3A&s=19

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 20:08

Braverman taking no prisoners.

mrshoho · 10/07/2022 20:04

'It is my hope that just as we should call pregnant women what they are, we will all of us accurately recall what we did and said in office.'

😁 and if they are silly enough to attempt to rewrite they'll be pounced on.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/07/2022 19:59

an indulgence of extremism - that's a nice little phrase and oh so true. Very pleased to see Mourdaunt being called out for her hypocrisy.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 10/07/2022 19:49

I’ve just seen the first post on Twitter calling Mordaunt a trf.*

Brilliant 🤣

I hope other "trans allies" are watching and learning.

ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 19:41

"And now [Suella] Braverman herself has entered the debate, releasing a lengthy statement setting out her own account of the 2021 row over the Ministerial and other Maternity Allowances Act. While she declines to name Mordaunt, she says that 'to have my female body referred to as being that of a "pregnant person" was distressing and unncessary' adding that it was 'the Cabinet Office who were for responsible for the bill.' At the time of course Mordaunt was indeed serving in that department as Paymaster General.

Braverman then goes in studs-up on the ministry, declaring that owing to its 'intransigence... what should have been a sign of progress became a bitterly contested bill' adding the legislation was 'hijacked for trans activists' and labelling it 'an indulgence of extremism.' She says only the support of members of the House of Lords meant the term referred to a 'woman'. Braverman ends with a veiled barb: 'It is my hope that just as we should call pregnant women what they are, we will all of us accurately recall what we did and said in office.'
Ouch."

www.spectator.co.uk/article/suella-goes-for-penny-on-gender-row

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Manteiga · 10/07/2022 19:41

The Express has got hold of the story about the maternity leave bill now: www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1638383/Suella-Braverman-trans-debate-Penny-Mordaunt-cabinet-office-maternity-law

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 19:22

I’ve just seen the first post on Twitter calling Mordaunt a t*rf.

You can’t placate them.

MalagaNights · 10/07/2022 18:44

Floisme · 10/07/2022 17:19

Regardless of what happens to Mordaunt's leadership bid, I think it's fabulous that it appears to be floundering because of this issue. Whatever happened to 'No debate' eh?

Well done to vipers everywhere and of all political colours. Now watch and learn, Labour Party because you'll be next.

Totally agree.

This issue is now on the table and important, because of the relentless drive of women who just wouldn't be quiet.

ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 18:31

More on PM - getting her Pink News award

twitter.com/HomoLittlest/status/1546011174197776385

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mrshoho · 10/07/2022 17:31

bye-bye miss penelope . Reap what you sow.

Quia · 10/07/2022 17:25

unfortunate, not unfortunately

Quia · 10/07/2022 17:25

On top of the that she used footage of the late Jo Cox rather cynically earlier too in a bout of self-promotion.

Not only her. It appears she wasn't too scrupulous about checking with a number of the people in that video whether they agreed, including the unfortunately police officer for whom it would have been a disciplinary offence if he had.

But she deserves to be chucked out of the contest just for that utterly ludicrous video anyway. I don't understand how the bloke who did the voice-over managed to restrain himself from breaking into uncontrollable laughter.