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Penny Mordant's bid for leadership is surely over

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ChristinaXYZ · 10/07/2022 17:00

Her obfuscation over her views on the trans issue in a long and rather disingenuous twitter thread earlier has brought a "senior Whitehall official," incensed by the perceived duplicity, out to say this:

"A senior Whitehall official gets in touch about Mordaunt and the maternity bill. “She fought AGAINST the change to ‘women’. The way she’s trying to rewrite history to suit her is despicable. While she’s supposedly campaigning on character and values. can’t believe the hypocrisy”

twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1546158477738971138

We all could see when it was happening it was only the steadfastness of the Lords that got the words woman and mother back in to the legislation.

On top of the that she used footage of the late Jo Cox rather cynically earlier too in a bout of self-promotion.

She has no judgement at all and her relationship with the truth seems rather strained. As the first comment in the thread says this is surely her Andrea Leadsom moment.

Penny Mordaunt should step-down before she does any more damage.

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achillestoes · 12/07/2022 09:57

Truss lacks decency? In what specific ways?

vera99 · 12/07/2022 09:46

There is a debate about the age Bow Group - a Conservative think tank that came up with the original estimate and still stands by its original internal methodology.

fullfact.org/news/how-old-average-conservative-party-member/

theworldhas · 12/07/2022 09:33

Some of the runners are pretty terrifying with the potential to be worse than Johnson in terms of their political impact, if not lack of decency.
I’d take the compulsive liar and cheat Johnson over virtually all of them, though Mordant, Hunt, Truss are the worst.
Sunak and Javid are arguably the least worst of the bunch. With them it will just be business as normal, with the Tory Party serving the interests of a tiny global elite at the expense of the vast majority of the country.

Crazykatie · 12/07/2022 09:12

Mordaunt is still just behind Sunak in the betting odds, Truss is close behind we will know quickly what MPs think, in a straight choice between Sunak and Mordaunt she could well win for lots of reasons.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/07/2022 09:07

The average age for a Tory member according to Full Fact is 57 (the same as Labour) and if even it was 72 they'd have been born in 1950 so 17 when being gay was decriminalised. Think of how progressive kids of the same age are thought to be now. Possibly just old enough to get involved in the campaign to make it legal or at least in favour when asked, part of the counter culture, helping to drive new revolutionary trends.

OldCrone · 12/07/2022 09:02

Abhannmor · 12/07/2022 08:37

I'm afraid she would win a run off with Sunak. Maybe not in the Commons but among members. She is white and has no tax dodging spouse afaik.

She is emotionally committed to twaw because her twin brother is a believer. He was engaged to that actor guy who spend all his time harrassing and suing GC feminists. What a mess.

Is it usual for someone in politics to be emotionally committed to a certain cause just because a family member is?

I would expect better of those who are elected to serve their constituents. That they should be able to separate the personal from what is best for the country, and sometimes agree to disagree with a family member.

vera99 · 12/07/2022 08:47

Danny La Rue for younger members was a cross-dressing superstar on prime-time TV in the 60s and 70s TV with 'her' own show where sexuality was a forbidden word and never talked about and until 1967 illegal between consenting males.

Abhannmor · 12/07/2022 08:40

Thanks @vera99 😊. Feeling my age today and that cheered me up. I'm still younger than the average Conservative member!

Abhannmor · 12/07/2022 08:37

I'm afraid she would win a run off with Sunak. Maybe not in the Commons but among members. She is white and has no tax dodging spouse afaik.

She is emotionally committed to twaw because her twin brother is a believer. He was engaged to that actor guy who spend all his time harrassing and suing GC feminists. What a mess.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2022 08:36

This is a TRA dog and pony show. Look for more statements like this to instill in people's minds the lie that she is no friend to trans people. Nothing but pure manipulation to obfuscate the fact the she is a stalwart supporter of gender woo.

Agree, but I think some of the less switched on ones are genuinely offended by some of her statements.

vera99 · 12/07/2022 08:30

Apparently, the average age of the Tory membership is 72 - they remember that nice Danny La Rue with great affection and Penny looks very smart in her uniform gender culture wars don't really work with that generation. Twitter is what the birds do in the garden.

MalagaNights · 12/07/2022 08:27

Apparently she's the front runner with the conservative party members!!

If she's in the final 2 she may win.
That is risky for women.

We need to clarity on her policy position on Trans and women's rights.

TheBikiniExpert · 12/07/2022 08:14

She should lose for that car crash of a campaign video on its own!

LordLoveADuck · 12/07/2022 08:11

We may know she is full twaw but does the Tory rank and file know it?

achillestoes · 12/07/2022 07:25

@LordLoveADuck

Yes, we know she is full ‘TWAW’. She is speaking to people behind the scenes to guarantee self-ID, I’m sure.

LordLoveADuck · 12/07/2022 07:15

achillestoes · 10/07/2022 19:22

I’ve just seen the first post on Twitter calling Mordaunt a t*rf.

You can’t placate them.

This is a TRA dog and pony show. Look for more statements like this to instill in people's minds the lie that she is no friend to trans people. Nothing but pure manipulation to obfuscate the fact the she is a stalwart supporter of gender woo.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/07/2022 19:23

Mordaunt is topping poll of conservative members

twitter.com/conhome/status/1546556212321419265?s=21&t=E_FCrxKLvzC-wo_gEk7LNg

achillestoes · 11/07/2022 19:23

So it looks like Tory members favour Mordaunt and Badenoch. Tory MPs currently leaning towards Mordaunt and Sunak. So not a great scenario if you’re GC: Mordaunt faces off against Sunak and wins the leadership.

GC views get sidelined again.

achillestoes · 11/07/2022 19:17

She’s doing well in terms of nominations. Only Sunak is doing better. Waiting this evening to find out what the rules are.

I’m not familiar enough with the Tory membership to know who they would choose between Sunak/Mordaunt, but it’s very concerning for women.

Crazykatie · 11/07/2022 16:23

The gender debate aside Mordaunt has been shuffled into several ministerial posts only to be shuffled out quickly, I’m thinking she is a lightweight with ambitions, not suitable for PM.

Motorina · 11/07/2022 16:18

Ohhh that's hysterically bad.

Signalbox · 11/07/2022 13:56

ContradickstoryEvidence · 11/07/2022 09:49

I'd really like to know what happened to the report PM commissioned 3 years ago into ROGD. It's one of the things she bragged about in her tweet, but was it ever completed/is it still ongoing and if so, what is its progress?

Is it not the Cass Review? Or was that commissioned by someone else?

WestHamPam · 11/07/2022 09:56

GreenLunchBox · 10/07/2022 20:11

She also featured Oscar Pretorius (who murdered his girlfriend) and Jo Cox (a murdered female MP) in her campaign video. Really showing her feminist credentials there!

twitter.com/queenofswords6/status/1546130388812169219?t=7s3oWJNDPVzocniVkzCA3A&s=19

Wow, it’s like a spoof ad. Also shouldn’t it be “less about the captain, more about the ship”? Her version doesn’t really work.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 11/07/2022 09:49

I'd really like to know what happened to the report PM commissioned 3 years ago into ROGD. It's one of the things she bragged about in her tweet, but was it ever completed/is it still ongoing and if so, what is its progress?

334bu · 11/07/2022 08:23

I am sure Ms Mordaunt is only following her former leader's example of stating " alternative facts"