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Rishi on Women’s Rights

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PiffleWiffleWoozle · 09/07/2022 21:01

www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/200162/exclusive-womens-rights-top-priority-for-sunak

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ProfessorFusspot · 09/07/2022 22:14

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:45

I’m genuinely astonished posters are so positive and thinking of voting tory
don’t trust the Tories, ideologically that are anti union, misrepresent the public sector, and have enforced austerity upon people. Plus, I don’t agree with brexit and oh I’m a republican with Irish family. So on balance…it’s a big no from me. I’m not fooled by platitudes about women rights, don’t trust them

The next leader of the Conservative party, and therefore the next UK PM, is going to be a "Tory". There's simply no way that can vary. So among the possible Tories, people on a feminist board prefer a Tory who claims - even if not credibly - to prioritise women's rights to a Tory that openly promises to decimate them. Not astonishing.

BreadInCaptivity · 09/07/2022 22:08

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:45

I’m genuinely astonished posters are so positive and thinking of voting tory
don’t trust the Tories, ideologically that are anti union, misrepresent the public sector, and have enforced austerity upon people. Plus, I don’t agree with brexit and oh I’m a republican with Irish family. So on balance…it’s a big no from me. I’m not fooled by platitudes about women rights, don’t trust them

I understand where you are coming from because whilst this issue isn't enough to make me vote Tory, it's enough to stop me from voting Labour/LibDem/Green (I've been spoiling my ballot for years now).

However this is still good news on two fronts imho.

It demonstrates political parties know this is a topic about which a significant number of voters feel strongly about. It means our voices are finally being heard. Labour/LibDem/Greens are going to have to do some serious maths about how many voters like me they are alienating, those they are pushing to the Tory's and the number of votes they'd lose if they changed their stated policies and where those voters would likely go.

The second good reason is that puts Mordant and Sunak (the two favourites) with a clear gap between them and one I imagine Sunak will exploit in his campaign to both Tory MP's and the party membership.

Whilst a Tory govt is not my first choice, a Tory Govt with TWAW Mordant in charge would be the worst of all outcomes.

Beelezebub · 09/07/2022 22:06

If this is correct, then he’s one that I could tentatively get on board with for this issue. Although it doesn’t go far enough in my view. A lot of emphasis on competition in sports but not much on protected single sex spaces such as prisons and so on.

There’s no other party I can vote for (looking ahead to the next GE) as it stands right now. Not when all of the rest would throw womens rights in the bin. I’m

achillestoes · 09/07/2022 21:57

@Zone2NorthLondon

As a woman, I feel like the house is on fire. I’m voting for whoever is coming along with a bucketful of water, and I accept I won’t agree with them on other issues.

Wimblepeep · 09/07/2022 21:56

Other than tory*

Wimblepeep · 09/07/2022 21:56

It’s pretty clear to me there are a few Tories who will not be trying to change the legislation to remove women’s rights. That’s all I care about right now. If I vote anyone other than labour (or if I don’t vote at all) I am making the decision to erase myself. No thanks.

LunchPoems · 09/07/2022 21:54

I don’t trust the Tories. I don’t trust any politician.

i am pleased that this is now perceived to be a vote winner.

Times are changing. This is good.

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:45

I’m genuinely astonished posters are so positive and thinking of voting tory
don’t trust the Tories, ideologically that are anti union, misrepresent the public sector, and have enforced austerity upon people. Plus, I don’t agree with brexit and oh I’m a republican with Irish family. So on balance…it’s a big no from me. I’m not fooled by platitudes about women rights, don’t trust them

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/07/2022 21:43

There’s a useful Twitter thread here on which Tory leadership candidates know what a woman is. twitter.com/owenjhurcum/status/1545432149595226114?s=21&t=RHCrP0RT-yeFTmvsfTEeqw

abc5432 · 09/07/2022 21:41

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:20

For me, it’s not a compelling enough reason to vote for a Tory, a man tainted by years in govt under Boris Johnson. I think it’s insincere and Tory austerity harmed women and families

Rishi Sunak only became an MP in 2015 so he has only been in parliament 7 years. He was not really around for Cameron austerity and was popular mainly because of generous furlough terms during the pandemic. He is arguably a bit young and inexperienced but hardly as tainted as everyone else as he was elsewhere.

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:41

LunchPoems · 09/07/2022 21:35

I’m happy they now think this how to get the votes

Then you are deluded if you think getting votes means anything at all apart from getting votes.

ProfessorFusspot · 09/07/2022 21:41

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:20

For me, it’s not a compelling enough reason to vote for a Tory, a man tainted by years in govt under Boris Johnson. I think it’s insincere and Tory austerity harmed women and families

He's campaigning for the Conservative Party leadership, though. How would it be possible to vote for someone for that who is NOT "a Tory"?

Musomama1 · 09/07/2022 21:40

Well, let's say that Rishi really does prioritise this, we have two years of strengthening women's rights and dismantling some of the damage already done before the next general election.

Hey, I'm glad somebody is listening... although I have a slight concern this seems a little like this year's Brexit, as in single-issue to attract voters. Mind you, they did make good with Brexit...

MarshaBradyo · 09/07/2022 21:39

Datun · 09/07/2022 21:16

They know. They so know.

TWAW is losing support everywhere.

The whole issue is right up there at the top of the bloody agenda. And who knows if it's genuine, or just hitching a ride on the zeitgeist bus.

At this point, I'm just glad it's front and centre stage.

Well done you women !

Great isn’t it

I’m really pleased for everyone who kept at it despite insults etc

achillestoes · 09/07/2022 21:38

This is exactly how to get my vote.

MarshaBradyo · 09/07/2022 21:38

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:35

All they know is how to get votes...

It’s a shame Labour don’t do the same with votes from women

good news op

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 21:37

Agree with both @CuriousCatfish and @PrettyPlatapus
tories will say anything to get into power, they’re insincere grifters who’ll say what it takes to secure a win. Their austerity policies have chipped away at women and families.

LunchPoems · 09/07/2022 21:35

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:32

They know how to get the votes. I never believe a word they say though.

I’m happy they now think this how to get the votes

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:35

All they know is how to get votes...

BreadInCaptivity · 09/07/2022 21:33

They know. They so know.

Absolutely this and whatever your politics this is good news.

They know this is an issue that will impact some womens voting choices (and presumably think it's a significant number) - whether that is to switch who they vote for or not vote at all.

If the Tory's know it so do Labour.

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:32

They know how to get the votes. I never believe a word they say though.

Cuck00soup · 09/07/2022 21:29

I thought earlier when I read Kemi Badenoch's piece in the Times that I could see her joining Rishi. This seems to add weight to that theory, but at this point, who knows.

CucumberCool · 09/07/2022 21:26

@Zone2NorthLondon I agree with you. Isn't this the same tactic they always use and that's why they are always in power? Does it really mean they will change their minds anyway....?

Is sad though as I do feel politically homeless and genuinely worried for my daughter's future

Sexnotgender · 09/07/2022 21:22

They know which way the wind is blowing.

LunchPoems · 09/07/2022 21:20

Great to see