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Rishi on Women’s Rights

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PiffleWiffleWoozle · 09/07/2022 21:01

www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/politics/200162/exclusive-womens-rights-top-priority-for-sunak

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Lucienandjean · 10/07/2022 00:36

At the moment this is the most important single issue for me. I'm encouraged that at least some politicians have spotted that women care about their rights, and if those politicians happen to be Tories, we'll so be it.

If the Labour Party came out as strongly for women's rights, I'd vote for them, but they haven't so it looks as though I'll be voting Tory at the next election (as long as Penny Mordaunt doesn't become PM - then we're all doomed).

BlackForestCake · 09/07/2022 23:46

Labour (and the other parties) have been warned time and time again that eventually the Tories will grab this issue and shine a light on it, showing the electorate exactly how deranged the sex denialist lobby is.

Now that time has come.

I will never vote Tory, but millions will.

EaselArt · 09/07/2022 23:38

When the time comes in two years, I’ll be voting for the party which knows the difference between a woman and a man enacting gender stereotypes. l’ll be voting for the party which will be safe guarding women and children. And it looks like I’ll be voting Tory.

Ravenclawdropout · 09/07/2022 23:30

I want to hear him say he will protect women in prison and not put any men in with them!

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 23:29

Evidently, We all see this differently . I will never vote Tory and their platitudes and promises don’t cut it for me.

justbesensible · 09/07/2022 23:27

@Zone2NorthLondon

Lets just wait and see what happens with his plans.

I’m a LibDem/Labour supporter but I cannot support them any longer - this issue is so fundamental.

The proof is in the pudding…

jayritchie · 09/07/2022 23:25

Seems to be timed as an attack on Penny Mordaunt. Possibly also to take a bit of publicity away from Kemi who is getting good coverage.

hangonsnoopy · 09/07/2022 23:24

Sorry, Domestic Abuse Act.

hangonsnoopy · 09/07/2022 23:24

I have never voted Tory and am very opposed to austerity measures.

But, I am a woman on a low income and a DA survivor. Tories brought in the Domestic Abuse recently. Their Universal Credit changes for low income workers (brought in by Sunak) made me £200 a month better off.

I'd like more investment in public services but I don't trust Labour with basic women's rights.

justbesensible · 09/07/2022 23:23

I hate the Tories - they’ve massively cocked up covid and Brexit. But THIS I can get behind. I’m relieved excited and hopeful all in one.

Gagagardener · 09/07/2022 23:18

But you can't vote in the Tory leadership election unless you are a Conservative MP or a paid-up member of the Conservative party. If you want to support Sunak in his attempt to become the PM who replaces Johnson, you'll have to join your local branch NOW. And in a general election, you can only vote for Sunal if you live in his constituency, where a three-legged donkeycwith a blue rosette would get in. I know thus. I live there.

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 23:11

I don’t see any grounds to believe that Labour is going to shift its position. A vote for them now or in two years, or in five years, is a vote for genderism. Deal with it.
keir actually believes this stuff. So do most of the rest of them. They aren’t pretending. It’s what they think.

StansRealityStruggle · 09/07/2022 23:09

I guess I am a fairly rare beast - a lone parent on benefits and a Tory party member. Women's rights will be absolutely pivotal in my voting decision. Watching events with great interest.

Manderleyagain · 09/07/2022 23:08

ProfessorFusspot · 09/07/2022 22:14

The next leader of the Conservative party, and therefore the next UK PM, is going to be a "Tory". There's simply no way that can vary. So among the possible Tories, people on a feminist board prefer a Tory who claims - even if not credibly - to prioritise women's rights to a Tory that openly promises to decimate them. Not astonishing.

Yes there seems to be some misunderstanding about what's going on here. We have got 2 years to try and get a much more sensible approach embedded (or at least started) in education, health, justice, sport. After that we will quite possibly have a labour government. That may be better in many ways imo, I might even decide to vote for them despite this issue, but in the mean time it's a choice between conservatives. I hope they pick someone who will really make a difference on this issue for the next 2 yrs.

The fact that candidates for pm are raising this as an issue to distinguish themselves is entirely down to the efforts of all the women working on this for the last few years, and all the puuuullllling. I hope labour are watching. But I hope it doesn't push then the other way to distinguish themselves from conservatives.

The vast majority of tories are not true believers in twaw - I doubt any are. Once it became clear what it actually means and that many voters don't like it they could drop it.

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 23:05

Oh, and Labour aren’t listening. They know best. Why won’t you sit still and be educated, bigot?

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 23:04

It seems to be a basic hygiene issue now for the tories. It’s not the be all and end all but They have to put down a marker and show they’re not actually going to tell the nation, as the fragrant sir Keir did, that female biology is unspeakable.
I shouldn’t have to be grateful about this, but I am

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 09/07/2022 23:00

I think we have to see as a positive that candidates are coming straight out with women’s rights and with clear language. It changes the dial. Who knows, Labour might even be listening, we can but dream.

SheldontheWonderSchlong · 09/07/2022 22:46

I'm a lone parent, unpaid carer on benefits, never voted conservative in my life (why would I have?) but I am absolutely a one-issue voter on this issue now. However, my mp is the rather wonderful Rosie Duffield, but I will still have to properly consider if I even want to vote for a party that has become so ideologically anti-science as it will feel like I'm condoning the lunacy.

Zone2NorthLondon · 09/07/2022 22:35

Well it’s an interesting insight into other people views and potential voting pattern
i think there is a lot of naïveté and misplaced optimism regard tories and Rishi

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 22:30

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 22:21

This is how democracy works. Politicians listen to the discussion of the issues and decide how best to address their constituents concerns.
its what’s supposed to happen - give me that any day over crusading arrogant Labour morons trying to persuade us that the earth is flat.

And pigs fly.

janesmithsdog · 09/07/2022 22:22

This is how to win my vote 🙌🏼

LunchPoems · 09/07/2022 22:22

I won’t be disenfranchised as I think that’s what they want. So I will vote, and I will vote on this issue.

CucumberCool · 09/07/2022 22:21

@achillestoes
I think you'll find those buckets are full of lighter fluid

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 22:21

CuriousCatfish · 09/07/2022 21:41

Then you are deluded if you think getting votes means anything at all apart from getting votes.

This is how democracy works. Politicians listen to the discussion of the issues and decide how best to address their constituents concerns.
its what’s supposed to happen - give me that any day over crusading arrogant Labour morons trying to persuade us that the earth is flat.

roarfeckingroarr · 09/07/2022 22:20

What about prisons, Rishi?