Ppl with penises

And this is why it's so batshit. Do men know they have a prostate? What men? What men?

Those with a prostate, or those with a vagina?

Exactly. And said in half the amount of words than I managed!

In fairness there was a whole bit on prostate cancer on daytime tv with “Dr Xand” where the entire time he referred to people with prostates and how these people with prostates should get them checked. I thought the whole thing was actually quite dangerous because do the entire male population know they possess a prostate?

Because it's a men's rights movement.

When you have a significant number of men who want to claim the word woman, you have to divorce the word woman from any meaning relying on female biology. Otherwise they can't do it.

Woman is up for grabs by men, therefore it has to have some indefinable meaning.

The converse is not true, because women who want to be men have no power to make men call themselves ejaculators, because transmen are women and no one listens to them.

The industrial bit of gaslighting is that which claims this is coming from transmen, who don't want to be called women, and therefore all women have to be called womb havers. A handful of transmen changing the language of the entire western world? I don't think so.

Woman can't be used in health material to refer to human female biology because it excludes males who identify as women. Hence the US Women's March being forced to get rid of pussy hats and the London Women's March being told that using it to discuss female health matters was exclusionary of males who identify as women. The converse doesn't happen , because who cares if transmen( being female) are excluded from the category of men. Misogyny and the Patriarchy at its finest.

Yeah, funny isn't it that all the transmen are apparently perfectly fine and not at all 'triggered' being referred to by their entirely female reproductive organs but we can't call male people, prostate owners, ball bearers or ejaculators because that is 'dehumanising'.

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I think it has a lot to do with the importance of claiming "most marginalised" status. Any reminder of the female reproductive system of transmen and AFAB NBs strengthens their claim to being marginalised and oppressed, whereas referring to the male organs of transwomen and AMAB NBs weakens their claim.

Or maybe transmen and AFAB NBs object as just strongly as transwomen and AMAB NBs to references to their sexed bodies but their concerns just don't matter as much for some unfathomable reason.

Apparently, it was merely an administrative cycle about the schedule of the overhaul of web pages on the NHS site and it's just a coincidence that all of the women's pages were overhauled with gender neutral language of erasure first.

Wasn't that the explanation a few weeks ago as to why the phrases "prostate havers" or "sperm ejaculators" aren't in use?

Why are we not erasing men along with women? "I leave it to yourself to determine".

I think it’s because transwomen would come under the “people with penises” term and we’re not allowed to mention the fact that they’re biologically male.