Julie Bindel & Sharron Davies can't believe women centre their politics around the trans issue

So what are they saying? "I cannot BELIEVE that many of you on here are deciding who is good or bad for PM because of the trans issue ALONE."

Actually for me, this is the most important issue and everything feeds from it. If people are prepared to buy into this lie, what else will they do?

If I can't trust a pm to know and say what a woman is, then I can't trust them to be truthful / fair on anything. It's important.

Sorry I disagree. In the UK thankfully no one is starving.

Once woman are redefined legally to mean anyone who wants to be a woman the destruction and chaos to womans protections and services may never be undone.

Also how calculating and cold Starmer is is frankly unnerving!

For what it's worth I don't think Keir Starmer actually thinks men are women. He's just, understandably, rather desperate not to be cancelled by the far left in his party.

I agree. But doesn't that make it worse? This would mean he is happy to lie and is a coward.

Yeah that’s not what they’re saying at all

This isn't a new position for Julie she has for a long time said trans issues aren't the only issue women should be concerned about.

The good thing about democracy is that we can all vote in accordance with our own views. Some will have views that differ to Julie and that's Ok

For me noone is a 'champion for women' at the moment are they?

They're absolutely right. The Tories are not champions of women, they're just (and not all) right on this one singular issue. The rest is a shitshow.

For what it's worth I don't think Keir Starmer actually thinks men are women. He's just, understandably, rather desperate not to be cancelled by the far left in his party.

Of course they believe it, they just don't like it. That's fine. The good thing about not having idols is that you can take or leave their point of view. I'd have thought that we got into enough of a mess imploring women to put aside their core principles in order to be pragmatic about the greater good, but that's just my point of view.

Good for them. They can vote on the issues they see fit.
To my mind and I do not speak for all, women matter. And once we have officially in law lost our words and our very few spaces, we are lost too. It's the end of woman. So I will make my vote with only women in mind, every other person can do as they wish.

I mean, they're right really. And I'm as GC as they come. It's why so many people have such dilemmas on who to vote for I think.

So 'how dare you centre your politics on what's important to you, women put other people first!'

As ever WOMEN!! #BEKIND!

What’s the question here?

i actually agree with them. While I feel strongly about this issue, there are plenty of others that I also feel strongly about and it’s up to every person to decide what their priorities are and as an overall picture, who they believe is best placed to represent them and what they want / believe in