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Macy and Bette forced to recant

42 replies

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 08/07/2022 06:49

That's it really. So depressing. It's great to see a few signs of hope in the UK (though we need to remember that every institution is captured, to some extent) but North America is lost.

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Quitelikeit · 08/07/2022 08:54

I just don’t understand why she didn’t come off Twitter for a week?!

close her account so nobody could message etc!!!

Norden · 08/07/2022 08:52

And she said "woman is a vibe"

Very jumbled interview and she looked frightened. Poor woman. The gulag got
To her.

Cailleach1 · 08/07/2022 08:50

She must have been under a lot of pressure, and possibly losing work. However, she was right the first time.

Cailleach1 · 08/07/2022 08:49

Oh. Public profession of faith. Interesting bit from that interview is where she says it takes a lot of courage to go out into the world and be honest about who you are. Irony there, as the claim of being someone of the other sex is not honest, or who you are. I suppose I have to add, in my opinion.

Then 'you are whoever you believe you are, and no one can dictate the for you, or take that away from you.' Irony there again. Macy can't think men (in any shape or form) are not a woman like her.

Never a public confession about 'hurting' women.

SquirrelSoShiny · 08/07/2022 08:44

I think Macy was a total politician in her answer. Go Macy.

Also that NBC host is a revolting sycophant to toxic gender woo. A Serena Joy type determined to make Macy squirm. Macy held her own, she is nobody's fool. But my god, that host summed up everything that is wrong with North American media and politics. There is no space allowed for nuance.

Cailleach1 · 08/07/2022 08:36

Recanting doesn't really seem to absolve you of the cardinal sin of stating reality, though.

I don't see anything on Macy's twitter withdrawing her statement of reality.

Norden · 08/07/2022 08:29

FOJN · 08/07/2022 07:58

When did Macy back track, this tweet is still up on her Twitter.

twitter.com/MacyGraysLife/status/1544736831681576961?s=20&t=kmvxVrMRWEuZA5dw5MlRdA

twitter.com/todayshow/status/1545062145234292736?s=21&t=Ka4S0BCTxwe5C-7LYu0rog

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 08/07/2022 08:27

Do you think they really believe they are progressive? Don' they just say that as one of their tools to shut people up? They must know really that they are the opposite of progressive? Tying people's identities to their bodies can't really be seen as progressive by anybody surely?

FOJN · 08/07/2022 07:58

When did Macy back track, this tweet is still up on her Twitter.

twitter.com/MacyGraysLife/status/1544736831681576961?s=20&t=kmvxVrMRWEuZA5dw5MlRdA

turbonerd · 08/07/2022 07:43

Ah, that is a shame. But hopefully people will have observed how it played out and thought some thoughts around that.

It really is what @FunnyTalks says:
The tweets demanding they say the catechisms (TW are W, TM are M) are chilling.

This movement thinks its progressive but it behaves like a deeply conservative religion. The most important thing is for everyone to be seen saying the special words.

Musomama1 · 08/07/2022 07:43

That interview of Macy cowed into submission is quite chilling.

This really is a modern day witch hunt isn't it? It'll take some high profile American with tremendous will to hold their line.

Still feel grateful Macy spoke up, hopefully people will see the interview and work out the horrible bullying and abuse on the so called 'progressive' side.

Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at a Black Mirror episode. The US is beyond toxic on this issue.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 07:37

Repent, motherfu*ker!

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 08/07/2022 07:21

And cancel culture doesn't exit?

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 08/07/2022 07:14

MajorieEks · 08/07/2022 06:52

I just saw Macy but not Bette. I understand why they would - the vitriol must be overwhelming to deal with - but it's sad that such simple statements can't be disagreed with more reasonably and that women are silenced.

Bette hasn't done a full recant, in fairness, but she has softened what she has said, and I suspect a total climbdown will follow.

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FunnyTalks · 08/07/2022 06:59

The tweets demanding they say the catechisms (TW are W, TM are M) are chilling.

This movement thinks its progressive but it behaves like a deeply conservative religion. The most important thing is for everyone to be seen saying the special words.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 06:53

Macy didn’t withdraw what she said, did she? She said she’s sorry if she hurt anyone.

MajorieEks · 08/07/2022 06:52

I just saw Macy but not Bette. I understand why they would - the vitriol must be overwhelming to deal with - but it's sad that such simple statements can't be disagreed with more reasonably and that women are silenced.