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Let’s hope Mordaunts not the next PM

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LarryBlackmonsCodpiece · 08/07/2022 01:00

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achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:39

Plus, then Starmer could test himself against one of the brightest and best women in the country. He’ll like that.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:35

And although it doesn’t matter what racial background the next PM comes from, I would think their being a black woman would be inspirational to young people from minority ethnic groups. It would be wonderful for them to be able to see themselves represented in the highest office in the land, and by such a brilliant and brave woman.

ChristinaXYZ · 08/07/2022 17:33

@achillestoes Guido has a spreadsheet

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffqemZ-YOi7AvAw8HbxmMd0vIbsOXLZ7KpAmNQPD2r8/edit#gid=0

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:30

She should. She’s very good.

ScribblingPixie · 08/07/2022 17:28

In the same article, "Kemi Badenoch, who is considering a tilt at the top job, resigned as equalities minister on Wednesday." I hope she has a bash at it.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 17:02

‘To be honest, I'd tolerate him as Prime Minister if only because it keeps him one step away from controlling a department.’

LOL.

LizzieSiddal · 08/07/2022 16:43

Surely the MPs who get to vote first, will be a bit more sensible than to vote for someone who believes TWAW?

ResisterRex · 08/07/2022 16:43

Second story in the Telegraph online. Most likely archived somewhere

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/08/penny-mordaunts-pro-trans-stance-has-ruined-chances-becoming/

Penny Mordaunt’s pro-trans stance has ‘ruined her chances’ of becoming Tory leader

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/07/2022 16:38

The Times aren't describing her TWAW stance as a weakness though.🤔

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2022 16:34

ResisterRex · 08/07/2022 16:32

They would never do that to a man

There were snaps of Cameron on the beach and, IIRC, he'd rather caught the sun that day.

Presumably it was published as silly season filler while he was on holiday. Not the same as doing it during his leadership campaign.

ResisterRex · 08/07/2022 16:32

They would never do that to a man

There were snaps of Cameron on the beach and, IIRC, he'd rather caught the sun that day.

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2022 16:11

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 14:50

Grant Schapps just launched his bid. We’re going to need a bigger boat.

A boat crewed by agency staff?

To be honest, I'd tolerate him as Prime Minister if only because it keeps him one step away from controlling a department. The sooner we get him out of the DfT the better, Grayling was bad enough.

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2022 16:07

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/07/2022 13:50

That photo of her in her scanties in The Times 😱

They would never do that to a man.

Thank goodness, can you imagine Boris in Speedos?

DdraigGoch · 08/07/2022 16:04

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 12:26

@DdraigGoch

Where’s that info from, please?

Guido. Now a second nomination for Mordaunt.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 14:50

Grant Schapps just launched his bid. We’re going to need a bigger boat.

Tallisker · 08/07/2022 14:29

McDuffy · 08/07/2022 09:12

I had the idea that Tanni GT was GC but can't remember why.

She appeared on Baroness Nicholson's webinars and said along the lines of if people with disabilities had the same sort of focus and money spent on meeting their needs that trans people do, there wouldn't be any problems left for them. Ie, all their needs would have been met.

Mollyollydolly · 08/07/2022 14:20

Trouble is Johnson slung out so many reasonable tory voices (Rory, Stewart, David Gauke, Ken Clarke etc) that they are much more to the right than they were previously so someone like Mordaunt is now perceived as fairly moderate. I'm interested to know what Tugendhat thinks as he's always seemed sensible and has some integrity. Suspect he's never given it much thought.

Ohhhhladz · 08/07/2022 14:15

I don't understand how Mordaunt (and Hunt) are being touted as left-leaning or progressive choices within the Conservative party.

Mordaunt was (is?) a Brexit headbanger and xenophobe who lied during the Brexit campaign about "a million Turks" coming to the UK (as Turkey was, according to her, just about to join the EU, despite coming nowhere near meeting the criteria over decades as a candidate.) When challenged, she insisted that EU countries do not have an accession veto (they did, and do). Surely after the trouble of getting Johnson out Conservative MPs and members don't immediately want another blatant liar and Pound Shop Farrage anti-EU hardliner?

Even stranger to paint her as a unity candidate. Mordaunt (after Hunt) would be a gift to Scottish separatists, who are already lobbying for a general election to use as a mandate for independence. (We're past the risk of Johnson calling one to hang on, but it's still possible a new leader/PM would call one to establish legitimacy). The SNP line now is that the Conservatives AND Labour are committed Brexiteers / EUrohobes and therefore can't represent Scotland. Mordaunt as PM defending the next election is in some ways even better than Johnson, as she looks like she actually believes her paranoid nonsense.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/07/2022 14:09

No, I could not vote for her either. It’s still disgraceful though. And somewhat ironic.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 13:54

@YetAnotherSpartacus

No, they wouldn’t. Nice picture of Ben Wallace in fatigues. Nadhim Zahawi all suited up. Penny in her cozzie. Disgraceful.

I still couldn’t vote for her.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 08/07/2022 13:50

That photo of her in her scanties in The Times 😱

They would never do that to a man.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 13:49

@ChristinaXYZ

Absolutely - let’s make noise about it.

ChristinaXYZ · 08/07/2022 13:47

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 07:42

She’s popular because they think she can get some lefty votes, and because she’s polished and very credible.

Agree. Also because many people don't know what she has said and done re gender. And what she'll do if given the chance. Most of those Tory party member saying they'd vote her would be horrified. It just needs greater publicity.

I hope every interviewer asks her what a woman is...

SpinningForTheWorld · 08/07/2022 13:06

MoleAtTheCounter · 08/07/2022 12:43

Mordaunt delivered a speech in the House of Commons just before the Easter recess in 2013 on poultry welfare so as to use the word "cock". She used the word "cock" six times and "lay" or "laid" five times. Following her comments, she was accused by Labour MP Kate Hoey of trivializing parliament.

Mordaunt did for a bet with her navy pals, didn't she?

She can be really immature at times.

achillestoes · 08/07/2022 13:01

That photo of her in her scanties in The Times 😱

But it looks like she’s a serious problem. She’s just topped a poll by Tories in Comms. She’s popular with the membership. I can only hope she doesn’t get enough nominations.