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waterbabys · 07/07/2022 09:18

So sounds like BoJo is finally about to be dragged out and I'm wondering who would be best to replace him in terms of being sympathetic to a GC's point of view?

I was thinking Savid Javid potentially? Any thoughts from anyone else?

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PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 11:18

ThePumpkinPatch · 07/07/2022 10:29

Personally - Rishi. But for non-political reasons, ironically.

For what reasons, then?

Is it hypothetical relationship purposes?

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:17

I’m reading Wallace has a lot of support.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 11:15

I admit I don’t get bookies’ predictions but I just don’t hear Mordaunt’s name coming up on radio when people talk about strong possibles

I’m hoping that’s the case

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:14

@SirSamVimesCityWatch

People do change their views, but the more they do the harder it is to judge where they’ll be on any one issue.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/07/2022 11:13

But now he says the world has moved on and supports same sex marriage.

I don't mind this, myself. Lots of people (including Stonewall!) didn't support same sex marriage at the time it was going through.

The military stuff is stranger.

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:10

Ben Wallace is a wild card. He used to be anti same-sex marriage and gay people in the military. He ruled out men wearing make up in the army.

But now he says the world has moved on and supports same sex marriage.

Slowgrowingelm · 07/07/2022 11:08

Has Penny Mordaunt said anything to imply she has changed her views?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/07/2022 11:05

Penny Mordaunt is odds on at the moment, which is a worry.

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:04

Tom Tugendhat - anyone know anything about where he stands?

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:00

No, Hunt is pro puberty blockers and Gillick competence for young teens thinking they can change their sex.

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 10:48

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 10:28

I do think the leader sets the scene though

Starmer who lies re biology is far worse than one who states reality

Yes, to an extent. Worth remembering this is very much not seen as a key issue, though.

Insofar as we need a sensible leader, we're okay unless it's Mordaunt, is that right?

Covidagainandagain · 07/07/2022 10:34

gingercat02 · 07/07/2022 09:22

Apparently Suella Braverman, the Attorney General is interested

Suella Braverman voted against lifting the abortion ban in Ireland. I'm not particularly thrilled by the idea of someone who only knows who women are so that they can control them

ThePumpkinPatch · 07/07/2022 10:29

Personally - Rishi. But for non-political reasons, ironically.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 10:28

I do think the leader sets the scene though

Starmer who lies re biology is far worse than one who states reality

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 10:26

I'm not quite sure the leader matters all that much to feminists, tbh. It seems to be the ministers in charge of each individual area - Javid for Health, whoever ends up being Education minister, etc, that makes the real difference.

So we just need to be ready to lobby all over again, I suppose.

It's a good reminder that we need to keep campaigning on the issues and awareness, and not rely too much on individual people.

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 10:23

FigRollsAlly · 07/07/2022 09:58

This is my biggest fear because once self id is in it will never go away.

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Same.

Musomama1 · 07/07/2022 10:18

Phobiaphobic · 07/07/2022 09:52

I'm just worried there'll be a general election and Labour will get in and immediately implement self ID

Yep, and the recent Bristol Council voting - who are dominated by the left - might be a microcosm of how national policies would go.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 10:13

Phobiaphobic · 07/07/2022 09:52

I'm just worried there'll be a general election and Labour will get in and immediately implement self ID

I get you but I don’t think this will happen soon and the next GE is best lead by someone else now as Johnson was too damaged

I would be happy with Javid

I like Wallace but he’s really focussed on his brief and I’m not sure what his GC views are, he’s quite popular with grassroots apparently

Sunak is ok but also damaged with public

AnyFucker · 07/07/2022 10:10

Javid

JoodyBlue · 07/07/2022 10:08

Javid impressed me when he resigned rather than agreeing to sack his advisory team on the behest of Johnson/Cummings. He has consistently stood his ground in matters of personal integrity. That type of character would go a long way right now.

donquixotedelamancha · 07/07/2022 10:06

Yes, we need there to be a new leader and we need that leader to be GC, and good.

None of the candidates are GC feminists but apart from Mordaunt they all know what a woman is.

Badenoch or Truss are the biggest allies for feminists on that issue only but I think Javid is a good and likely outcome.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/07/2022 10:05

FigRollsAlly · 07/07/2022 09:58

This is my biggest fear because once self id is in it will never go away.

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Same here. I am not a natural Tory but I will vote for them to keep Labour / Lib Dems out because once self id is on the law books, getting it out will be nigh impossible.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/07/2022 10:04

I'd be alright with Sajid Javid I reckon. With Rishi back as chancellor.

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 10:00

Yes, we need there to be a new leader and we need that leader to be GC, and good.

FigRollsAlly · 07/07/2022 09:58

Phobiaphobic · 07/07/2022 09:52

I'm just worried there'll be a general election and Labour will get in and immediately implement self ID

This is my biggest fear because once self id is in it will never go away.