New PM

Suella Braverman on Peston last night...

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Hopeful.

Javid, then Truss

Sunak. I think his heart is in the right place. I also think that he’d do a good job.
I don’t like Javid, don’t trust him.

I've got to admit I've mostly in my long life voted Labour, but even if I didn't care about women's rights at all I think I'd have a significant distrust of any political party that has spouting an anti-science line as a key policy and one people aren't allowed to disagree with.

It's totalitarianism.

I'd also be opposed to a political party saying the earth is flat and saying anyone who disagreed with that was a bigot.

Even though I think man-made climate change is real, I don't think climate change deniers should be silenced and labelled as bigots. I think their arguments should be discussed and proven to be wrong. And climate change is a much more complex situation where there is a range of complicated evidence. Much less straightforward than the sex binary.

Of course silencing us is all they've got because the argument that TWAW doesn't stand up to scrutiny (what the hell are they transing to or away from if they're LITERALLY W?)

I thank you (doffs cap) however the works of Mr T Pratchett are vastly preferable even to spoons.

I quite identify as Granny Weatherwax and wish I'd thought of that when I name changed. Maybe next time.

Tom Tugendhat would be good I reckon.

Agreed.
Javid 4 PM. Sunak 4 Chancellor.
I'd vVastly Prefer Starmer if it wasn't for the 'self ID' nonsense (its even worse here in Scotland England mustn't follow ...) & supporting Brexit.
A plague on all their houses tbh ...

I've always liked spoons.

Yes, I know a GC woman who lives in his constituency who told me he has been very supportive.

Cross post with SamVimes - great minds, etc 😉

Interesting how it's the Tories who had the UK's first female PM, and could potentially have our first non-white one.

Yes, it's interesting isn't it? So many top Tories are BAME.

Maybe it's the difference between actually being inclusive and simply identifying as such. Doing rather than saying (and then forcefully making everyone agree that you're inclusive / pro women's rights even when actual evidence suggests otherwise).

Interesting how it's the Tories who had the UK's first female PM, and could potentially have our first non-white one. I'd like to see Javid bring some stability to this shit show. Being dull but competent is seriously underrated in politics.

I would like Javid for this reason too, with Rishi in the chancellor post again. Labour can bleat about diversity as much as they like, but they have never had a woman leader (Tories 2, Labour 0) and Javid would give the Tories the first non-white leader and non-white PM as well.

In politics more than anything, actions speak louder than words.

But they've all been elected as MPs and no-one gets to vote directly for leader.

I don't get this whole we need an election when we've got a new PM. We don't vote for them! That's not the system we have. Fine, if we think we need a different system but under the existing system I really don't see why an election is needed.

Being dull but competent is seriously underrated in politics.

Absolutely. Javid's been good in health. I totally disagreed with his covid policy at first too and thought I knew better (!), but he obviously had better data than me and although I'd like some investment in ventilation and air filtration (esp in schools) I think he's largely got things right.

I've been quite impressed with him.

Tories would be idiots to call an Election as one is not due till December 2024. That's 2 plus years to bed in a new leader.

@MarshaBradyo

Trouble with that is that going on too long without an election weakens the unelected new PM. It has to be before too long.

Truss 'women do have vaginas Nick' would be my preference.

Won’t they stay in as long as possible using majority and getting away from all this?

ie election when it’s meant to be

I agree time is a friend in this

It’s such a shame, as I admire Keir Starmer, and I think many of the Labour politicians are decent people who genuinely want to serve their people and the country.

I don't understand this though. How can they be decent people when they deny women's rights, when they deny the rights of young girls to be able to go into changing rooms without seeing a penis, if a man decides he wants to self ID as a woman and go in and get undressed?

I just don't think it's decent to force half the population to be described as body parts and to force people to lie about the truth.

@blahblahblahspoons

It’s just misogyny. She doesn’t say anything much more stupid than the rest of them.

Interesting how it's the Tories who had the UK's first female PM, and could potentially have our first non-white one. I'd like to see Javid bring some stability to this shit show. Being dull but competent is seriously underrated in politics.

Also interesting how Starmer's boring voice is such a negative. William Hague could arguably have been PM if he had hair and a less annoying voice.

I think, with a new leader, the Tories would be mad to pull an election out of the bag now. They need to re-establish themselves as a stable, sensible government who are the right choice to get us through the (probable) upcoming economic difficulty. A year or so of having put the many and varied Johnson scandals behind them they'd be in a better position than now, I think. Right now the danger is people are thoroughly sick of the lot of them and will vote for anything else because they want the change.

I would imagine that the televised debates will ask each candidate "what is a woman".

Yes, there's a general press line that Truss is embarrassing but I've yet to see any actual evidence that she's bad at her job. She's not the best public speaker, but I'd rather have someone who was competent and not all about appearances - especially after BoJo.

Is there any actual evidence about Truss being incompetent or is it all blatant misogyny?

I suspect World Leaders would prefer quiet competence to a repeat of BoJo.

I really don’t know what you mean? Is this about the snap election I’ve lost track

I’m not criticising your point just asking why you feel as you do?

I even said perhaps I missed something