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Linda Carter - Wonderwoman!

216 replies

antifascist · 06/07/2022 21:33

what a star! if only so many on Mumsnet could do the same

"I cannot think of anything that helps women’s rights less than pinning the blame on trans women. They face so much violence and scrutiny as is. Leave them alone and focus on the real war on women. It’s happening in the courts and legislatures around this country."

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GoodJanetBadJanet · 07/07/2022 23:18

As said upthread, I'm nobody's sock so not sure why you're trying to insinuate yet again that we're the same person.
Oh and so if it's other women calling us dried up as a joke then that makes it Ok then, it's only satire after all 🙄

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 23:10

Oh dear, Bad Janet, it’s called satire. Did you miss the OP getting the jibes in about being old?

As an aside and general musing, why do the gender people never seem to have any sense of nuance or humour? All our gendery posters seem to have exactly the same writing style of heavy handed earnest disingenuousness. It’s enough to make me wonder sometimes if they are all the same person, locked in a basement somewhere in Brighton, surrounded only by lonely stacks of unsold pronoun pins. <joking>

RoseslnTheHospital · 07/07/2022 23:06

Janet, care to admonish the OP about their blatant ageism? Or is it ok to ignore it because you think we deserve it?

GoodJanetBadJanet · 07/07/2022 22:58

See, the only time I see people calling women dried up (WTF?) and menstruators is by so called "GC" feminists on this board.
As a joke or not, it's pretty disgusting to describe us like that.

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:41

[except on mumsnet, obviously where we will be shamed for "appearing in satin hot pants and a shiny bra."]

Hey, dried up old ladies of Mumsnet! You thought objectifying women’s bodies was Really Bad in those olden times back before 2012; but get rid of those antiquated ideas, because antifascist is now here to tell us that 70s television is actually a feminist-activist medium!

Dreikanter · 07/07/2022 22:30

When the UN wanted to promote Wonder Menstruator as a “role model” it didn’t go down too well.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38300727.amp

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:27

What next? Morecambe and Wise as radical Commie activists of their day, I guess. Allo Allo a serious Marxist commentary on the European transnational peace movement. Maybe The Dukes of Hazzard as antifa deconstructionists of performative gender roles?

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:23

It’s absolutely daft in the extreme to claim that objecting to the 1970s sexualisation of women’s arses as titillating early evening family entertainment is “shaming”. Oh dear!

You really do need a bit of thinking training. Read some actual books, and take the time to listen to people who know more than you do. Do a proper university course where you have to learn things from before 2012! (Like the history of fascism, for example.) Then you will be far better equipped for all of this.

RoseslnTheHospital · 07/07/2022 22:18

Obviously you are far too young and modern to have watched the original Wonder Woman, anti, but are you seriously suggesting that it was a feminist production with feminist values at its core? And not just another show objectifying women for the male gaze?

antifascist · 07/07/2022 22:16

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:01

It’s the feminist activism Angela Davis would have wanted, obvs:

Delighted to see Angela Davis has so many fans on here

"if we want to develop an intersectional perspective, the trans community is showing us the way. And we can't only point to, and we need to point, to cases such as the murder of Tony McDade, for example. But we need to go beyond that and recognize that we support the trans community precisely because this community has taught us how to challenge that which is totally accepted as normal. And I don't think we would be where we are today—encouraging ever larger numbers of people to think within an abolitionist frame—had not the trans community taught us that it is possible to effectively challenge that which is considered the very foundation of our sense of normalcy. So if it is possible to challenge the gender binary, then we can certainly, effectively, resist prisons, and jails, and police."

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antifascist · 07/07/2022 22:15

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:01

It’s the feminist activism Angela Davis would have wanted, obvs:

"Yes means yes and No means No
However we dress and whereever we go"

[except on mumsnet, obviously where we will be shamed for "appearing in satin hot pants and a shiny bra."]

["these days she’d have an OnlyFans, and flog a range of satin hot pants on Instagram,"]

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theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:15

Which is also famously why she turned into Wonder Woman by spinning around, because it the audience a good look at the hotpants from behind:

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:13

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 07/07/2022 22:06

And also the Pankhursts.

Absolutely! Just think of those many, many scenes where they film her close up from behind just so the male audience can have a good look at her bum:

antifascist · 07/07/2022 22:12

whilst JK Rowling (1) or Jordan Peterson (2) were clearly and explcitly exemplifying feminist narratives by
(1) making a boy the hero
(2) eating lots of meat

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EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 07/07/2022 22:06

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:01

It’s the feminist activism Angela Davis would have wanted, obvs:

And also the Pankhursts.

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 22:01

It’s the feminist activism Angela Davis would have wanted, obvs:

theclangersarecoming · 07/07/2022 21:56

The original Wonder Woman TV series used to be thought of as a rather embarrassing relic of a time when women couldn’t play a character without appearing in satin hot pants and a shiny bra.

As a pp says it was thought of as rather cheesy and objectifying: “Wonder Woman” was basically intended as a bit of light commercial t&a for the weekend teatime dad audience, not exactly some kind of radical feminist manifesto.

I guess these days she’d have an OnlyFans, and flog a range of satin hot pants on Instagram, and today’s “feminist activists” would find that all really super empowering.

Helleofabore · 07/07/2022 21:51

kitten

Maybe you missed it. Telling females to ignore the risk of make violence and male abuse, regardless of the identity of the person involved, is now a sound and praiseworthy feminist activity.

As is telling females where to prioritise their activism when they are fighting for their rights, that impact them personally.

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 21:50

GoodJanetBadJanet · 07/07/2022 21:49

How is this praise for a feminist activist? What are you actually on about?
It's pretty clear the OP is "on about" Linda Carter, so not sure what you yourself are actually on about.

I was responding to OP's post calling someone old. Hence quoting that in my own post.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 07/07/2022 21:49

How is this praise for a feminist activist? What are you actually on about?
It's pretty clear the OP is "on about" Linda Carter, so not sure what you yourself are actually on about.

KittenKong · 07/07/2022 21:47

Where feminist activist?

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 21:47

Oh, sorry, I see. Rick from the Young Ones is not generally one of the people I think of when I think of feminist activists. I appreciate you have different views.

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 21:46

Perhaps because you're old. The actor who played Rick from the Young ones died in 2012

How is this praise for a feminist activist? What are you actually on about?

RoseslnTheHospital · 07/07/2022 21:45

Oh hello Op. got any comment on the ageism in your previous posts??

antifascist · 07/07/2022 21:40

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 20:39

You are lovely, aren't you, OP?

I like to think so .

Sorry to hear to hear you are apparently objecting to a post in praise of a feminist activist

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