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Linda Carter - Wonderwoman!

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antifascist · 06/07/2022 21:33

what a star! if only so many on Mumsnet could do the same

"I cannot think of anything that helps women’s rights less than pinning the blame on trans women. They face so much violence and scrutiny as is. Leave them alone and focus on the real war on women. It’s happening in the courts and legislatures around this country."

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IcakethereforeIam · 09/07/2022 14:22

Wow, five generations in that post.

SolasAnla · 09/07/2022 13:57

SolasAnla · 09/07/2022 13:55

My Great grandpa was In love with you and your show.

Mother of a teen

Really MN please stop doing whatever is doing the editing

Fan quote:
My Great grandpa was In love with you and your show.

Mother of a teen

SolasAnla · 09/07/2022 13:55

My Great grandpa was In love with you and your show.

Mother of a teen

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 09/07/2022 12:44

It does indeed empress

KittenKong · 09/07/2022 12:36

It’s funny though. Someone posted a pic of Blunder Woman. I wonder if we could persuade Carter that this is actually the original and best WW…

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/07/2022 12:18

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 09/07/2022 12:12

😀

why the hell did she delete Wonder Woman? Silly billy

I’ve just seen who did the suggesting. Lynda Carter clearly has no idea of which tweets are from gender ideologists & which ones are taking the piss. Which says it all really…

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/07/2022 12:14

Wonder Womb-haver would retain the alliteration.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 09/07/2022 12:12

KittenKong · 09/07/2022 10:02

She’s too busy pondering her twitter bio… some naughty person suggested that having ‘wonder woman’ was problematic - so she took it off.

They then suggested that ‘mom’ and ‘actress’ were also problematic terms.🤣

😀

why the hell did she delete Wonder Woman? Silly billy

Dreikanter · 09/07/2022 10:14

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/07/2022 07:32

It was 6.30 this morning. Don’t know whether he got distracted or what, but I’m up for work at 6 on weekdays anyway so I’ll take that as a win.

I’m up at 6.30am on weekdays. My cat has decided that she is doing me an enormous favour with her weekend 6.30am alarm replacement yowling.

KittenKong · 09/07/2022 10:02

She’s too busy pondering her twitter bio… some naughty person suggested that having ‘wonder woman’ was problematic - so she took it off.

They then suggested that ‘mom’ and ‘actress’ were also problematic terms.🤣

PearlClutch · 09/07/2022 09:48

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 13:23

I went down the Wonder Woman rabbit hole. It's creator, William Moulton Marsten, was heavily into BDSM, hence the skimpy costume and the tying up with the lasso of truth. Wonder Woman was a composite character, based on the woman he and his wife had a threesome living arrangement with (the wife was given no choice in the matter), and his aunt, with whom he started a sex cult. He was originally a psychology researcher, specialising in conducting experiments on female sexual arousal through submission. He spent a lot of time tying up young women in the name of his research. The whole WW origin story is akin to a male sexual fantasy about dominatrixes. Marsten took advantage of the 1930/40s rise in comic books amongst youngsters (and their violent/forbidden fruit content that had created a degree of moral panic) to depict the content that he was interested in to children - women tying each other up/being tied up by men, and female empowerment through rejecting traditional gender roles through fetish feminism.

Wow. That brings more light to the matter. I wonder Linda Carter is aware of all that?

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/07/2022 07:32

It was 6.30 this morning. Don’t know whether he got distracted or what, but I’m up for work at 6 on weekdays anyway so I’ll take that as a win.

SolasAnla · 08/07/2022 23:12

IcakethereforeIam · 08/07/2022 23:06

My money is on a no score draw, the cat doesn't get a 4 am meal but sleep is not uninterrupted.

You need to invest in an auto feeder in a soundproofed catchbox cat box.😼

IcakethereforeIam · 08/07/2022 23:06

My money is on a no score draw, the cat doesn't get a 4 am meal but sleep is not uninterrupted.

stayathomer · 08/07/2022 22:55

There’s a cat here who’s trying to assert his absolute right to breakfast at 4am.

It’s come up against my absolute right to be fast asleep at 4am. The struggle continues.

crossing fingers you don’t get woken at 4!!!!!

theclangersarecoming · 08/07/2022 15:03

Yes exactly - and very much in accord with that tired and nasty old BDSM trope about how women find “freedom” in being tied up, beaten and dominated. I’m so sick of hearing that despicable old shit at the moment. Porn violence everywhere, and the number of girls being taught to eroticise their own objectification in things like choking and abuse! It’s doing huge damage to so many of our young women and I will never agree to pretend it’s any kind of liberation.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 14:54

@theclangersarecoming I was actually pretty startled at how this man's "vision" of female empowerment, formulated in the early part of the 20th C, sounded straight out of the modern day, Only Fans-esque narrative of female empowerment through a type of sexual "freedom" that mainly benefits voyeuristic/cock-lodging/pimp men. The goddesses of Paradise Island could not be left alone to their own happiness and fulfilment. Nope, they had to plop a male into the middle of it all.

theclangersarecoming · 08/07/2022 14:01

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 13:23

I went down the Wonder Woman rabbit hole. It's creator, William Moulton Marsten, was heavily into BDSM, hence the skimpy costume and the tying up with the lasso of truth. Wonder Woman was a composite character, based on the woman he and his wife had a threesome living arrangement with (the wife was given no choice in the matter), and his aunt, with whom he started a sex cult. He was originally a psychology researcher, specialising in conducting experiments on female sexual arousal through submission. He spent a lot of time tying up young women in the name of his research. The whole WW origin story is akin to a male sexual fantasy about dominatrixes. Marsten took advantage of the 1930/40s rise in comic books amongst youngsters (and their violent/forbidden fruit content that had created a degree of moral panic) to depict the content that he was interested in to children - women tying each other up/being tied up by men, and female empowerment through rejecting traditional gender roles through fetish feminism.

@ContradickstoryEvidence — you see, you and I think this is ghastly, and a complete betrayal of women by objectification and commercial and personal sexual exploitation, and about as far from genuine feminism as can be. I think we just can’t envisage any way in which this could be anything but the grossest misogyny and sexism. But we have to remember that the current versions of “choice feminism” are so topsy turvy that rather than be horrified at its origins, they actually see this as a positive.

How did feminism for young women even reach this point where exploitation is somehow reimagined as pseudoliberation? It’s in fact this that is deeply right wing, deeply capitalist and commodified, and full to the brim of false ideologies and idols.

It’s all of a piece with the pro-“sex work”, pro-men’s sexual rights, pro-capitalist ideas that so many of our “guest posters” like to plop in and try to convince us are so absolutely fantastic and “empowering”.

theclangersarecoming · 08/07/2022 13:50

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 13:23

I went down the Wonder Woman rabbit hole. It's creator, William Moulton Marsten, was heavily into BDSM, hence the skimpy costume and the tying up with the lasso of truth. Wonder Woman was a composite character, based on the woman he and his wife had a threesome living arrangement with (the wife was given no choice in the matter), and his aunt, with whom he started a sex cult. He was originally a psychology researcher, specialising in conducting experiments on female sexual arousal through submission. He spent a lot of time tying up young women in the name of his research. The whole WW origin story is akin to a male sexual fantasy about dominatrixes. Marsten took advantage of the 1930/40s rise in comic books amongst youngsters (and their violent/forbidden fruit content that had created a degree of moral panic) to depict the content that he was interested in to children - women tying each other up/being tied up by men, and female empowerment through rejecting traditional gender roles through fetish feminism.

Ah then, it fits totally in with the current “kink-positive” agenda! Why be fully autonomous beings with full civil rights, when you can instead be “faux empowered” through submissive fetishised objectification, and being reduced to your sex organs?

I’m surprised she isn’t already advertising a range of BDSM tights for the umbrella people tbh.

LaughingPriest · 08/07/2022 13:33

Anyone managed to pin down yet what the group of people there is a "war on" are? something called "women". The dictionary says these are people who are female. Is that what Linda meant, do we think?

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 13:23

I went down the Wonder Woman rabbit hole. It's creator, William Moulton Marsten, was heavily into BDSM, hence the skimpy costume and the tying up with the lasso of truth. Wonder Woman was a composite character, based on the woman he and his wife had a threesome living arrangement with (the wife was given no choice in the matter), and his aunt, with whom he started a sex cult. He was originally a psychology researcher, specialising in conducting experiments on female sexual arousal through submission. He spent a lot of time tying up young women in the name of his research. The whole WW origin story is akin to a male sexual fantasy about dominatrixes. Marsten took advantage of the 1930/40s rise in comic books amongst youngsters (and their violent/forbidden fruit content that had created a degree of moral panic) to depict the content that he was interested in to children - women tying each other up/being tied up by men, and female empowerment through rejecting traditional gender roles through fetish feminism.

ContradickstoryEvidence · 08/07/2022 09:35

Hmm. MN Mods asked me to change my previous user name and to change it on my posts under that name. It had "Terf" in it, but I think it was the "Trans Shite" part that had blubbers running to find a safe space. Not a big deal to me, as I change names every few weeks to protect the living, but interesting nevertheless to see what combination of words set off the TRAs.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/07/2022 09:07

So I don't relate to her statement at all as I've never blamed transwomen for anything. most people haven't

yes i agree

and as an extra note MNHQ don’t make a fuss about user names containing the word TERF as TERF isn’t a banned word (unless someone is called a TERF obviously as that can be taken as a personal attack)

KittenKong · 08/07/2022 07:39

Yup. Comedy these days - is pretty lame. Everyone too scared to offend anyone (except women).

Waitwhat23 · 08/07/2022 07:29

It's not the Young Ones I think of when I see someone constantly throwing out the term facism in all and every circumstance, regardless of context but the 'Crypto-facist' scene from the Red Dwarf episode Timeslides.

I fear it is pre - 2012. However it is very funny.

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