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Edward Lord has been recused from hearing a Gender Critical belief case

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Theblondestoftheblonde · 06/07/2022 12:48

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/edward-lord-recused/🙂

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/06/2023 10:14

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/06/2023 08:36

In January 2023, it was revealed in the media that senior members of the Church of England and the judiciary had met at an undisclosed date to discuss Mrs Higgs’ case. The motivations, reasoning and details for such a high-level meeting are not known.

Shock crikey

I missed that Bernard. We know that in the recent past, trans lobbyists have gone to extreme lengths to hide the details of their "training" and meetings with the judiciary - presumably because the public would recognise it as an attempt to convert the judiciary to their ideology were the details to be revealed?

Sunnava · 17/06/2023 09:18

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 19:05

I want to see Ali G ask: 'Is it because I is non-binary?'

If Baron-Cohen had the balls, he’d take on the ridiculous nature of this issue for his next satirical undercover film, which if done well could be brilliant. The only subject that truly cows comedians (notable exceptions Glinner, Chapelle, Gervais). That says something.

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 17/06/2023 09:10

I’m only assuming. The appeal will decide if there’s been an error in the application of the law by the tribunal, but it can’t substitute its view for that of another court. So back to tribunal it goes to retake the decision without the legal flaws. IANAL and am sure someone will correct me if wrong!

Zeugma · 17/06/2023 09:06

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 17/06/2023 08:26

Thank goodness the appeal was allowed, but sending the case back to the employment tribunal must be absolutely gutting for Kristie Higgs.

I think this is always the case when there’s a successful appeal? Wasn’t Maya’s situation the same?

I wasn’t aware that it was always the case that this happened - that’s interesting. The statement in the link didn’t make it clear.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/06/2023 08:36

In January 2023, it was revealed in the media that senior members of the Church of England and the judiciary had met at an undisclosed date to discuss Mrs Higgs’ case. The motivations, reasoning and details for such a high-level meeting are not known.

Shock crikey

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/06/2023 08:35

from the article

The ruling sets a legal precedent which confirms that the Equality Act 2010 protects employees from discrimination not only for their beliefs, but also for expression or manifestation of their beliefs.

that's helpful. I think a lot of the argument has gone 'it's OK for you to have your beliefs but don't you ever actually speak about them or we'll sack you'. aka don't bring your whole self to work

Setting out a “guidance” for reconsideration of this case as well as for similar cases in the future, Mrs Justice Eady says: “First, the foundational nature of the rights must be recognised: “the freedom to manifest belief (religious or otherwise) and to express views relating to that belief are essential rights in any democracy, whether or not the belief in question is popular or mainstream and even if its expression may offend.”

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 17/06/2023 08:26

Thank goodness the appeal was allowed, but sending the case back to the employment tribunal must be absolutely gutting for Kristie Higgs.

I think this is always the case when there’s a successful appeal? Wasn’t Maya’s situation the same?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/06/2023 08:24

The other recusal was that of Andrew Morris, former Assistant General Secretary of National Education Union (NEU), would be presiding as a lay magistrate. The NEU's position on the gaslighting of children by this ideology in schools has been shameful.
It's yet another example of how deeply this ideology has embedded itself into the fabric of our institutions and how dangerous this is - especially for women and children.

Zeugma · 16/06/2023 23:07

Thank goodness the appeal was allowed, but sending the case back to the employment tribunal must be absolutely gutting for Kristie Higgs.

And one other thing I hadn’t realised - there had to be ANOTHER recusal after Edward Lord?? This is just madness and deeply worrying.

Penguintears · 01/08/2022 08:26

Meg-John says "I – or I should say we – also experience ourselves as a plural system, rather than a single individual."

That's a new one on me. Now people are identifying as non-singular as well as non-binary.

Isn't the word for this "personality"?

IcakethereforeIam · 01/08/2022 00:34

I've.just googled zis partner and, in my defence, it's late and I need reading glasses, but when the results came up I was honestly wondering why there was a picture of Glinner.

Apologies to both of them.

donquixotedelamancha · 01/08/2022 00:33

That's interesting, isn't it? So Edward has inserted Edward-self right at the heart of the disciplinary machinations of one of the leading psychotherapy membership bodies in the UK.

When we discuss how this mess came about I often think people are too quick to see conspiracy instead of well meaning stupidity.

I make an exception in this for Edward Lord and Meg-John Barker. They are incredibly proud of his awful conduct and she writes prolifically about their creepy sexual predilections, under the guise of professional psychology.

I would be hard pressed to think of anyone in this sorry mess who gives me the heebie-jeebies more than those two wrong uns.

donquixotedelamancha · 01/08/2022 00:23

So, in otherwords, this most disadvantaged member of the LGBTQXYZ+++ rainbow is, in fact, a straight white man?

No straight, bi and likes to go on and on about it.

Once upon a time a rich, white, heterosexual couple who liked swinging might not have been recognised as amongst the most oppressed group in Britain.

But Edward Lord just adopted plural pronouns (with no change in presentation) and his wife Meg put on a flat cap and hyphenated her name with a male one and now they are both super oppressed.

Johnnysgirl · 31/07/2022 23:58

Motorina · 07/07/2022 14:32

For those who don't know Mx Lord, this is they. They is in an LTR to another queer person who is female.

So, in otherwords, this most disadvantaged member of the LGBTQXYZ+++ rainbow is, in fact, a straight white man?

Gotcha.

What a deeply sinister little bastard ze is.

Penguintears · 31/07/2022 23:45

nocoolnamesleft · 31/07/2022 21:51

I am confused. How can this individual be both nonbinary and also a member of the freemasons? Everyone knows the masons only take men (the type born with penises)

It must be a non-binary penis.

Rightsraptor · 31/07/2022 22:11

I nope James Esses knows this.

Edward Lord should recuse Edwardself or be ousted from quite a few roles, it would appear. How many positions does one NB need?

nocoolnamesleft · 31/07/2022 21:51

I am confused. How can this individual be both nonbinary and also a member of the freemasons? Everyone knows the masons only take men (the type born with penises)

MrsOvertonsWindow · 31/07/2022 12:19

Well spotted whenimnotwithyou
It's the Denton's report model - infiltrate at a senior organisational level to influence in your own self interest. This is why we're in this mess.

whenimnotwithyou · 31/07/2022 11:43

Yes I'm already aware of Lord's partner's contributions to the therapy profession.

SpringCalling · 31/07/2022 11:39

Well well well. Great find!

PronounssheRa · 31/07/2022 11:39

whenimnotwithyou · 31/07/2022 11:28

I've just discovered that Edward Lord acts as a lay chair for the UKCP in their complaints process when investigating psychotherapists for misconduct.

That's interesting to me as I can't find any published link between Lord and the UCKP, I just came across this information when researching UKCP misconduct hearings for work.

That's interesting, isn't it? So Edward has inserted Edward-self right at the heart of the disciplinary machinations of one of the leading psychotherapy membership bodies in the UK.

The same psychotherapy membership body James Esses is in the process of taking to court.

It becomes clearer if you Google the name of Lords partner.

Meg John Barker

achillestoes · 31/07/2022 11:33

This is how they do it. They lever themselves into positions of influence and power.

whenimnotwithyou · 31/07/2022 11:31

Here

Edward Lord has been recused from hearing a Gender Critical belief case
whenimnotwithyou · 31/07/2022 11:28

I've just discovered that Edward Lord acts as a lay chair for the UKCP in their complaints process when investigating psychotherapists for misconduct.

That's interesting to me as I can't find any published link between Lord and the UCKP, I just came across this information when researching UKCP misconduct hearings for work.

That's interesting, isn't it? So Edward has inserted Edward-self right at the heart of the disciplinary machinations of one of the leading psychotherapy membership bodies in the UK.

The same psychotherapy membership body James Esses is in the process of taking to court.

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