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Forstater judgment tomorrow

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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 19:06

In case we hadn’t had enough drama.

Good luck, Maya.

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IcakethereforeIam · 07/07/2022 09:48

I think I got an Agility badge at Brownies.

NotBadConsidering · 07/07/2022 09:47

The fact that Maya (and JKR) acknowledges Mumsnet (which will be predominantly this forum) really highlights the enigma that is MNHQ and Justine on this. Maya was posting here and being supported. The discussion that has taken place here has been a major contributor to this landmark decision. I struggle to understand why MNHQ isn’t phenomenally proud of its role in such a landmark decision. Instead they talk about allowing discussion while at the same time corralling it into one small space and have had special moderation rules around discussing the very thing Maya has won the right to state freely.

I really genuinely don’t get what MNHQ wants to BE on this🧐.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/07/2022 09:33

JKR blew us a kiss!

Forstater judgment tomorrow
mrshoho · 07/07/2022 09:32

Well I'll throw my BAGA (gymnastics) certificates in in that case. So proud of my perfect head stand!

Motorina · 07/07/2022 09:24

RedToothBrush · 06/07/2022 22:31

Anyone got a Btech or a Baccalaureate?

How about passing the 11 plus?!

BSC?

(Bronze Swimming Certificate)

geojellyfish · 07/07/2022 09:09

I would like to see Maya recognised for her contribution towards defending women's rights. As a minimum she should be on various women of the year lists after this, but I'm not sure anyone is brave enough yet. In a few years though? Here's hoping!

TeenDivided · 07/07/2022 09:05

Maya did a great job on R4. Clear answer to the 'what if they have undergone full surgery' question (answer not my job to police different levels of transition (or some such), just being clear you can't change sex. Mentioned sport (which the interviewer did not want to discuss).

JoodyBlue · 07/07/2022 09:03

I was listening too. It was perhaps the most confidently I have ever heard Maya say on mainstream media that a person can't change sex. Of course, all decent people do their best to respect others, however they present. But we are allowed to think the truth and to express that when it matters. One of the difficulties is we have been so conditioned over the past 5 years to not speak.

p1n3apple · 07/07/2022 08:49

I was listening! Great interview, well done Maya 👏

CriticalCondition · 07/07/2022 08:44

Maya on R4 now!

JacquelineCarlyle · 07/07/2022 00:54

Fantastic news - well done Maya and thank you!

Mollyollydolly · 06/07/2022 23:15

We really need the screenplay writing now. It is the most amazing black, satirical comedy, with brilliant women at its heart. Please someone write and commission it.

Maya you are a true suffragette.

BettyFilous · 06/07/2022 23:08

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 22:52

I like BIG TEXT and I cannot lie

Oh bravo! 👏 😂

TheBiologyStupid · 06/07/2022 23:07

Apologies if someone has already linked to this - here's the report on today's judgement in Personnel Today (warning: contains RMW!)

web.archive.org/web/20220706220233/www.personneltoday.com/hr/maya-forstater-v-cgd-2022-judgment-transgender-gender-critrcal/

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 22:52

TheBiologyStupid · 06/07/2022 22:41

Not a Btech, but Cuck00soup has got a BIG TEXT.

I like BIG TEXT and I cannot lie

FlibbertyGiblets · 06/07/2022 22:50

Huge round of applause for Maya and her team, mighty chuffed for them.

LovinglifeAF · 06/07/2022 22:47

I actually feel emotional at this decision. Thanks to Maya I can be that little bit more brave as a GC woman. What an incredible woman she is.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/07/2022 22:42

TheBiologyStupid · 06/07/2022 22:27

Allison Bailey is already on it, of course...

It’s the only thing that keeps me going, TBH. That and the humour

TheBiologyStupid · 06/07/2022 22:41

RedToothBrush · 06/07/2022 22:31

Anyone got a Btech or a Baccalaureate?

How about passing the 11 plus?!

Not a Btech, but Cuck00soup has got a BIG TEXT.

FOJN · 06/07/2022 22:41

Stonewall tweeting as if they haven’t been arguing that MF isn’t entitled to her philosophical beliefs (eye roll).

No-one has the right to discriminate against, or harass, trans people simply because they disagree with their existence and participation in society.

I really wish they'd grow the fuck up. Do they employ any adults with professionalism and dignity. Its just more grifting isn't it? Make sure trans people know the world would be such a hostile place for them if it wasn't for SW when the truth is SW are making things so much worse for them.

HellonHeels · 06/07/2022 22:34

ReneBumsWombats · 06/07/2022 22:29

Allison Bailey is on it.

Julie Bindel's handling Nottingham City Council. Although half their supporters thought she was Julie Burchill, so Christ knows who they think they're up against.

Perhaps she can identify as Burchill.

😁

RedToothBrush · 06/07/2022 22:31

Anyone got a Btech or a Baccalaureate?

How about passing the 11 plus?!

ReneBumsWombats · 06/07/2022 22:29

RedToothBrush · 06/07/2022 22:24

Anyone looking forward to the glorious moment that Stonewall get taken to court and get pwned?

Cos its gonna happen isn't it?

Allison Bailey is on it.

Julie Bindel's handling Nottingham City Council. Although half their supporters thought she was Julie Burchill, so Christ knows who they think they're up against.

Perhaps she can identify as Burchill.

GertrudeKerfuffle · 06/07/2022 22:28

Cismyfatarse · 06/07/2022 22:25

The way I saw it described as she has won the gold so doesn't also take home the silver and bronze.

Not a lawyer so don't know if that is correct but she has WON!!

That's a great analogy for all those of us not-lawyers 😁

GertrudeKerfuffle · 06/07/2022 22:27

This is fantastic news, I'm so happy for Maya, and in awe of her bravery and tenacity.

I'm still finding myself in disbelief that it came to this, it's utterly ridiculous in some ways that any of this occurred. But we are not living in an entirely sane world, are we? Still, a big chunk of sanity was restored today thanks to Maya, her team, and everyone who has supported them.