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Forstater judgment tomorrow

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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 19:06

In case we hadn’t had enough drama.

Good luck, Maya.

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SidewaysOtter · 06/07/2022 11:34

That is fucking brilliant.

Maya, I’m so pleased for you and thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing this.

Ben Cooper, you’re the Eighth Wonder of the World.

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 11:34

RaininginDarling · 06/07/2022 11:11

This is good news. And that's a lot of words in that judgement. Can someone with a bigger brain and vocab please break it down for me? Thank you!

She won, she won, she won!!!

achillestoes · 06/07/2022 11:33

So relieved I can’t express it!

What I love about it is the no-nonsense ‘it’s a straightforward expression of her belief’ statements. This case always hinged on the fact that some people have come to regard the very ordinary as the very extreme, and this judgment rightly corrects that.

Well done, you brave woman.

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GoodWeatherforDucks · 06/07/2022 11:33

Congratulations to Maya and her team! It is so incredibly important to have this as a legal reference point.

FairyBatman · 06/07/2022 11:32

Brilliant news! Well done Maya and team!

Fenlandia · 06/07/2022 11:32

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 11:27

She'll be busy on the media round today.

I'm sure Woman's Hour, who've studiously ignored this all along, will be right on the blower any minute now

Bowednotbroken · 06/07/2022 11:32

Such brilliant news! Thank you Maya for standing up to this. Appalling that you were put in this position in the first place. Celebrate this good news today.

theclangersarecoming · 06/07/2022 11:32

Have asked DP who is a lawyer, who says that once direct discrimination is proved it is normally not that necessary to pursue/adjudicate the indirect discrimination claim (which I think the report says was not actually pursued at the tribunal, eg point 3) so the fact that some claims were dismissed does not mean much. Or something like that!

(I’m not a lawyer so disclaimers that this isn’t my field of knowledge, don’t know how true this is etc. etc.!)

wantmorenow · 06/07/2022 11:29

Congratulations Maya and all the team.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 06/07/2022 11:29

yourhairiswinterfire · 06/07/2022 11:23

I am in bits reading that statement.

Women fucking matter, our realities matter, our bodies matter, they are real and immutable and not a feeling in a man's head, and thanks to Maya we can fucking well say that out loud.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 06/07/2022 11:29

Amazing!!! Well done Maya 🍾🥂

Madcats · 06/07/2022 11:29

This is such good news.

I hope the judgement doesn't get buried in mainstream media amidst the government meltdown.

My Kindle reckons the judgement is 81 pages long.

I suspect Ben Cooper QC is going to be a very busy man.

Theblondestoftheblonde · 06/07/2022 11:29

This is such brilliant brilliant news, well done Maya ❤️❤️❤️❤️

LondonWolf · 06/07/2022 11:28

Actually crying here 🥰

FernlovingNodosaur · 06/07/2022 11:28

Well done Maya. I really hope you get comfort from the fact, that it will now be public knowledge, how unfair your supposedly "equal rights" employers were in reality.

BattyOrange · 06/07/2022 11:28

Excellent news! Thank you and congratulations Maya!

PearPickingPorky · 06/07/2022 11:28

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 11:22

It'll take me a while to read the full judgement, but even on the aspects where she didn't win, there are a lot of useful words and, frankly, pointers, about where future cases might go (that also overlap with Allison's case) especially where research needs to be carried out.

This is very useful indeed. Absolute gold-dust meets dynamite.

This is what I hoped would happen!

Delighted for her. Amazing work Maya, Anya, Ben and Peter.

User237845 · 06/07/2022 11:27

Congratulations to Maya! And thank you to the clever vipers who explained the significance of different parts of the judgment.

Everything crossed now for Allison.

RudsyFarmer · 06/07/2022 11:27

Fantastic result!!!! 👏

Mrskettleson · 06/07/2022 11:27

What a relief! Well done Maya. You’re a legend!

Circumferences · 06/07/2022 11:27

I'm actually stunned.

This is amazing.

SpinningForTheWorld · 06/07/2022 11:27

She'll be busy on the media round today.

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 11:27

MAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

MattDamon · 06/07/2022 11:26

Incredible that it had to go this far. Congrats to Maya and her brilliant legal team.

Giggorata · 06/07/2022 11:26

Well done, Maya, you absolute star! 🌟