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Sajid Javid just resigned

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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 18:11

That’s all.

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achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:23

@ApplesandBunions

I understand your perspective. I’m more forgiving of mistakes made during that period.

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ApplesandBunions · 07/07/2022 11:19

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:16

@ApplesandBunions

It’s not the decision I would have made, but it was an extraordinary situation.

It was an extraordinary situation that presented him with one clearly wrong decision and one clearly right decision. He made the clearly wrong one, and the NHS suffered for it.

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 11:16

@ApplesandBunions

It’s not the decision I would have made, but it was an extraordinary situation.

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ApplesandBunions · 07/07/2022 11:09

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 08:12

@PomegranateOfPersephone

I agree generally but I think that was a borderline decision - wrong but not so wrong in the circumstances that I don’t get why it happened.

Nah, it was inexcusable stupidity. He was told well in advance that people would leave, that it wasn't going to be a choice between unvaccinated and vaccinated care workers but unvaccinated care workers and unfilled vacancies, and he was too arrogant to accept it. That one terrible decision has significantly exacerbated the bed blocking problem in the NHS.

wellhelloitsme · 07/07/2022 11:09

3luckystars · 07/07/2022 10:44

I just read that as ‘Cabaret Office’ and it really made me laugh. Welcome to the show!!

Money makes their world go round...

I expect there will be celebratory Friday drinks for lots of relieved Tories tomorrow now he's finally caved.

I'm not a Tory, pleased a man with so little integrity has gone but now wondering who on earth we'll get next!

Sajid Javid just resigned
RedToothBrush · 07/07/2022 10:56

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 07/07/2022 10:29

So Red he is planning on telling people he is resigning but has no intention to do so.

It would not surprise me!!!

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 10:48

3luckystars · 07/07/2022 10:44

I just read that as ‘Cabaret Office’ and it really made me laugh. Welcome to the show!!

Perfect. Funnily enough I was just thinking how theatrical this all is. Greatest Show on Earth ...

3luckystars · 07/07/2022 10:44

I just read that as ‘Cabaret Office’ and it really made me laugh. Welcome to the show!!

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 07/07/2022 10:42

Agree, and the minister for the Cabinet Office says he doesn't know and wouldn't preempt the statement

3luckystars · 07/07/2022 10:41

he is stalling!! There is no getting him out of there 😆

Melroses · 07/07/2022 10:29

Well he has not resigned yet................

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 07/07/2022 10:29

So Red he is planning on telling people he is resigning but has no intention to do so.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 10:26

12.30 was suggested earlier

RedToothBrush · 07/07/2022 10:24

Interesting thing just happened...

Sky news saying that theyve been told that johnson will stay until the autumn.

However they were just interviewing a minister who said er no, how is he going to do that no one wants to serve with him. They just had another journalists saying theyve been talking to others, saying similar.

And there has been another minister who has resigned SINCE the news that johnson will go.

Indeed the rumour circulating that johnson himself is saying he is staying until the tory party conference in october.

The party is talking about a constitutional crisis in the sense of having a lame duck pm, and the inability to put in big policy changes - the johnson camps seems to be saying that they intend to do a big tour and big policy changes as a fan fare (and potential bid for a future retry at being PM).

Once again the thing coming from Johnson seems to be all about his legacy rather than the best interests of the country.

But the mood amongst the party is that they have had enough of Johnson's manipulation of everything as its damaging the party reputation.

I am now wondering what time we will actually see Johnson. Its not nearly 10.30am. There is clearly a row going on.

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 10:13

Threatening to stay on till the Autumn. I don't see how it's possible. Who can credibly agree to continue to serve in his cabinet having said that he lacks integrity and honesty? It's not as if he is even prepared to accept that he has done anything other than forget that Pincher was a sex pest.

wellhelloitsme · 07/07/2022 10:09

Having to switch from Sky News to somewhere else, Kay Burley constantly interrupting Beth so much it's distracting as well as rude as fuck!

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 10:01

'a new leader to be in place by the conference in October'

PearlClutch · 07/07/2022 09:58

3luckystars · 07/07/2022 05:27

I hope tomorrow brings good news.

Id say the summer will be like a big thunderstorm and then there will be peace.

Wouldn't that be nice?!

Peace breaks out everywhere ...

FigRollsAlly · 07/07/2022 09:39

Now the conversation will move on to who replaces him and who can win a general election. Being strong on women’s rights from a GC point of view won’t be seen as a priority vs all the other important issues unless it’s seen as a wedge issue and that risks GC views being conflated with Trump style politics by left leaning parties. We really need more time to uncapture those parties but realistically that would take too long. So I don’t know where we go from here, just hope that whoever ends up in charge listens to common sense?

wellhelloitsme · 07/07/2022 09:32

Wow, it's confirmed. He's off.

As someone said earlier I wonder if Carrie is steaming the wallpaper off and popping it in her bags as we speak.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 09:30

People will have to talk about something else - on here too 😀

mrshoho · 07/07/2022 09:20

Finally resigning today. phew.

MarshaBradyo · 07/07/2022 09:08

Wallace is right with his tweet I was musing he needs to stay for safety of country reasons earlier

Also the idea that the rules can’t change - they are 1922 rules not any government I’m not actually sure what system Labour would use

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Johnson standing down

achillestoes · 07/07/2022 08:13

Badenoch is excellent but I don’t know if she’s ready.

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achillestoes · 07/07/2022 08:12

@PomegranateOfPersephone

I agree generally but I think that was a borderline decision - wrong but not so wrong in the circumstances that I don’t get why it happened.

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