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Sajid Javid just resigned

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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 18:11

That’s all.

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stayingpositiveifpossible · 05/07/2022 19:14

theotherfossilsister · 05/07/2022 19:00

Is anyone else finding this quite exciting? I really want Boris to go.

Yes me. Schadenfreude.

Eeksteek · 05/07/2022 19:14

PearlClutch · 05/07/2022 19:07

Because he doesn't feel shame or embarrassment. He can't. He doesn't experience those feelings so they can't affect his behaviour.

Yes, I agree he seems to have some sociopathic traits. I wonder if they are inborn or developed? I think many/most politicians either have these traits already or develop them; perhaps as a necessity.

I think rich privileged people develop them, honestly. I mean, how could you not?

but the callousness and indifference to anyone else’s welfare of BJ is special.

he won’t resign. He’ll install some sycophants and carry on as usual. He doesn’t care enough about anyone but himself to do something he doesn’t want to do for anyone else. And he wants to be PM. If no one can stop him, then that’s what he’ll do. He has no shits to give.

bossyrossy · 05/07/2022 19:14

I might be tempted to vote Tory for the first time if Rory Stewart was leader of the Conservatives but I can never understand why he is a Conservative, he is far too intelligent to be a Tory.

Dancingwithhyenas · 05/07/2022 19:11

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 05/07/2022 18:15

It's taken them a fucking long time to find their backbones...

Yep. Only care about ethics when they think they will win a leadership bid. Disgusting.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/07/2022 19:11

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/07/2022 18:58

Good riddance to him and Rushi. Both are complicit enablers who ignore,over look and minimise the absolute disaster the govt is under BJ
presumably they hope to distance themselves and come back or try to be Party leader
I anticipate another scandal must be imminent , certainly there are rumours of SuperInjunctions
alleged affairs
alleged pregnancy
alleged intimacy with BJ and Carrie being interrupted in flagrante delicto

Is that with the alleged Russian violinist? Wonder where she and the alleged baby are? Bet they are nowhere that Putin could get hold of them. I hope.

RosaGallica · 05/07/2022 19:11

My response to Javid resigning was 'what, again'?
With Sunak going as well this is clearly internal power politics at play.
They do not care about trust and honesty etc any more than the next financiers. Don't kid yourselves that they do. They could very easily have gone before over Johnson's lies, or never joined him in the first place. There's been enough of them.

cansu · 05/07/2022 19:11

Sajid Javid would make an appalling PM. He is nothing but an opportunist.

Tabitha005 · 05/07/2022 19:10

I've seen her interviewed enough times to feel she spouts a good deal of utterly nonsensical stuff that just tumbles out of her mouth like so much word salad. None of it has any real meaning or value and I never get the impression she at all knowledgeable of her subject or topics.

She also said Brexit wouldn't have any impact in Ireland which is just dumb. It's like she'd never even heard of the Good Friday Agreement.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/07/2022 19:10

If we do have an election, I really don't think they'll win

Don't be too sure; they'd certainly lose some seats, but that 80 majority won't be easy to overturn completely - especially when the opposition are hardly appealing either

MarshaBradyo · 05/07/2022 19:10

mrshoho · 05/07/2022 18:57

Obviously written together, too. A good start. I can’t see Johnson resigning unless, well, I can’t. He’ll have have to be sacked. Can they do that?

he can't be sacked as they have to wait a year before another vote of confidence. He must resign.

The rules can be changed by the committee

MermaidEyes · 05/07/2022 19:10

AmaryIlis · 05/07/2022 18:40

Gove was looking very thoughtful this morning. Is he the next?

As long as he's not next PM 😒

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/07/2022 19:10

Yes I am serious, I anticipate a snap election and he’ll win
BJ will hammer into the unions and public sector, instigate a hysteria about strikes etc. He was the BBC cowed and a huge right wing media presence

Provenceinthesummer · 05/07/2022 19:09

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/07/2022 19:00

BJ will not step down,I anticipate he’ll call and probably win a snap election

I agree! 100%

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/07/2022 19:08

teawamutu · 05/07/2022 19:02

Frankly I'd like Rory to be PM after listening to The Rest Is Politics. Thoroughly decent.

Agree, I'm a natural labour voter - or, I was. I can't vote for them while they refuse to see me as a woman, though.

Rory Stewart has been interesting and I suspect he didn't get elected because he is decent. If the party want to rebuild itself then they need someone with credibility - that's not Gove, JRM or Truss.

Wallace - handy if there's about to be a war. Sunak - him and his wife understand Russia and economics for sure and they are a very beautiful couple (I know it shouldn't count, but a polished and accomplished pair like that are very media friendly).

Ruth Davidson turned things around in Scotland - wonder if she'd hang up her ermine to have a go just to piss off Nicola Sturgeon?

PearlClutch · 05/07/2022 19:07

Because he doesn't feel shame or embarrassment. He can't. He doesn't experience those feelings so they can't affect his behaviour.

Yes, I agree he seems to have some sociopathic traits. I wonder if they are inborn or developed? I think many/most politicians either have these traits already or develop them; perhaps as a necessity.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 05/07/2022 19:07

anticipate he’ll call and probably win a snap election
Seriously? If we do have an election, I really don't think they'll win.
Have seen people in RL waking up a bit after so called party gate and all his lying.

Zone2NorthLondon · 05/07/2022 19:07

No, BJ is not sociopathic in any way. He’s opportunistic and a grifter. No ideological basis underpinning his actions just bluster. His MO is bluster and diversion and tbh it’s served him well. He is never adequate held to account and seems to get away with most things.

Idroppedthescrewinthetuna · 05/07/2022 19:06

Artichokeleaves · 05/07/2022 18:33

Becoming more and more convinced Javid is a sensible man.

Johnson needs to go. Hopefully this will topple him.

Unfortunately I think he is too pig headed to go without force

PearlClutch · 05/07/2022 19:06

The Times had a survey/poll on who was favourite for next PM a couple of days back. This'll be why, I suppose.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 05/07/2022 19:05

LoobiJee · 05/07/2022 18:53

She’s an anti abortion campaigner isn’t she? That isn’t good for women and girls.

No she isn't.

3luckystars · 05/07/2022 19:05

wow

wellhelloitsme · 05/07/2022 19:04

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 18:27

@user1471504747

People have their own perceptions. I don’t think Johnson is a misogynist or a racist. A lech and a lazy drunk, possibly. But anyway, let’s agree on one thing: the fat lady is singing.

I genuinely think he's a sociopath.

That's not hyperbole, I really think he is.

So until he's forced out he won't go, IMO.

Because he doesn't feel shame or embarrassment. He can't. He doesn't experience those feelings so they can't affect his behaviour.

He should be absolutely dreading PMQ tomorrow, he should be terrified it's a judgement day for him. But he won't be. He'll be confident he can bluster his way out of it.

And he's done so successfully (unfathomably to me) repeatedly, even when called out on proven lies. Maybe this time he finally won't get away with it.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 19:04

Dh hung out with Rory somewhere and thought he was excellent. Dh is a Lib Dem/ Labour/ occasional green voter

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 19:04

@Iamacatslave

My mistake. She’s certainly not stupid. I think people just see blonde hair and lose their minds sometimes.

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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 19:03

@Notjustabrunette

Maybe. My bar is set somewhere near ‘doesn’t let children elect unnecessary, irreversible and damaging surgeries’ at the moment.

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