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Bette, Mark and Macy!

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lospolloshermanosass · 05/07/2022 18:03

Lovely stuff going on on Twitter. Joanne is joining the convo with grace and calmness as usual. ❤️

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2022 08:48

Will they just close comments in similar future articles?

Well that's what the Guardian did.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 12/07/2022 08:40

Thanks for the new link. The comments are very reassuring. Perhaps the US isn't as lost as we thought?

dunBle · 12/07/2022 03:33

@SirSamVimesCityWatch it's still there, it's just the link in the original post was broken

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/07/2022 17:56

Just tried the Washington Post link - it's says the page has gone.

Have they taken down the whole article because of the comments do you think?

Manderleyagain · 11/07/2022 17:29

The Washington Post comments are fabulous. They are like the Times comment section c2019, or even better. So many comments really setting it out and explaining what the issues are. The comments in favour of the article are embarrassing in comparison. They have allowed themselves to exist in a #nodebate bubble, so when they try and engage with people who don't agree, they have nothing. They have absolutely nothing.

And there's something more well developed about it than was the case here a few yrs ago. The debate has been raging here for 4 years or more, that comment section suggests pent up demand for debate in America now.

I wonder what Washington post will do? They have tried to hide the comments by showing there are zero comments when in fact there are thousands. Will they just close comments in similar future articles?

IcakethereforeIam · 11/07/2022 10:42

The Pink News thread led to Uncommon Ground and to this recent article by Dr Em, they should read it:

uncommongroundmedia.com/predators-and-their-enablers/

WolverineBluey · 11/07/2022 10:23

Caught this on Twitter, haven't seen it discussed here but might have missed it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/07/06/bette-midler-macy-gray-transgender-advocates/

This execrable opinion piece from the Washington Post ticks all the usual boxes - dishonest, misogynistic, racist 'intersectional' bollocks, flinging the horrid t**fs in with religious loons, trans kids whataboutery, patronising that Bette and Macy were too doddery to really know what they were saying... And of course a trans person's sage-like wisdom that "there's no one criteria that all women share".

It's so awful. However the comments are a thing of joy! I've scrolled down a way and absolutely no-one is having it. Snatching a bit of victory from the jaws of defeat on a Monday morning.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 09/07/2022 16:37

The Proud Boys?

nah, the shit on the other end of the horseshoe.

loveandchives · 09/07/2022 16:11

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TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 09/07/2022 15:55

Everyone can see what’s going on at this stage, even genderists know the recantations aren’t sincere. I don’t think it even helps their cause any more to force a recantation. It just raises awareness that people are scared.

Did Bette actually recant by the way, or did she just do the “I was misunderstood” thing?

At least none of them threw “TERFs” under the bus to escape like Margaret Atwood did, though to be fair to MA she’s in her eighties and there were black clad thugs sharing her home address.

ofwarren · 09/07/2022 12:17

Mark removed his 'like'.

Anactor · 09/07/2022 12:10

GrinAndVomit · 09/07/2022 11:03

This has made my blood run cold. What did they do to her to get that ridiculous turn around?

Just to point out that ‘I learned a lot’ is an acting euphemism.

It’s what you say when you’re under contract to publicise something, but working on it was a truly dreadful experience. But, you know, you learned a lot…

bellinisurge · 09/07/2022 12:04

Mar 🐪! Awesome.

GrinAndVomit · 09/07/2022 11:03

This has made my blood run cold. What did they do to her to get that ridiculous turn around?

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 08/07/2022 21:11

lospolloshermanosass · 08/07/2022 21:06

😂

Don’t get it.

Does it identify as a joke?

lospolloshermanosass · 08/07/2022 21:06

😂

Bette, Mark and Macy!
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EdgeOfACoin · 07/07/2022 18:26

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 19:06

Although apparently writing headlines that could be seen as a veiled threat as well as abuse is fine:

Say Goodbye To Macy Gray — She Outed Herself As A TERF

www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/goodbye-macy-gray-she-outed-220042135.html

I genuinely thought this was parody at first.

elgreco · 07/07/2022 08:36

Love Macy.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 06/07/2022 20:35

I'm loving it 😍

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 20:33

And Bette's original over 100k.

achillestoes · 06/07/2022 19:24

10k likes in 45 minutes. Is this the greatest tweet of all time?

lospolloshermanosass · 06/07/2022 19:07

Heh, I liked this one.

Bette, Mark and Macy!
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PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 19:06

Although apparently writing headlines that could be seen as a veiled threat as well as abuse is fine:

Say Goodbye To Macy Gray — She Outed Herself As A TERF

www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/goodbye-macy-gray-she-outed-220042135.html

northstars · 06/07/2022 19:02

PearlClutch · 06/07/2022 19:00

That’s me told! Definitely not a backtrack. Amazing! 😄