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Bette Midler

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FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/07/2022 17:31

Just posted on Twitter. The usual suspects are all over the replies, obviously, so give her some support if you can—but there's a surprising amount of balance. Seems to me that the scales have finally started to tip.

It was always going to be sunlight.

---WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us “women” anymore; they call us “birthing people” or “menstruators”, and even “people with vaginas”!
Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!---

Bette Midler
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achillestoes · 05/07/2022 07:14

@Conflictedunicorn

That’s right, and when you strip away all the glitter and the ‘be kind’, it’s obvious these people believe those things (being old, not being ‘breedable’) make her an ‘unwoman’.

That’s because they are deeply, irredeemably sexist at heart.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:10

Macy Gray is STILL trending!

Conflictedunicorn · 05/07/2022 07:10

So the moment she says something the traliban don’t like she’s old ugly and a has been. Bet If she’d have supported trans rights she’d have been lauded as a queen. But it’s not policing women at all! Nope. And the misogyny is chilling as PP have said

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:49

Another choice viewpoint:

’Why is it always women who can’t even give birth anymore who insist on this point? A trans man with a viable uterus has way more say on this than you old lady’

Remind me again how it’s only the right wing loons who tie the ability to give birth to being female?

Musomama1 · 05/07/2022 06:39

It's notable someone from the showbiz especially musical theatre world is calling out the 'be kind' crap. Also Bette Midler is a grande dame isn't she, plenty of credibility.

As for Macy Gray, I love her plain speaking, I just love her voice anyway to be honest, how could you disagree with her? She should narrate a GC audiobook!

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:37

Apparently it’s all because she’s ugly. She’s jealous of transwomen because they’re so ‘cute’.

No, no misogyny here.

quixote9 · 05/07/2022 06:28

Good for her! Brava! (I worry a bit about how insanely grateful I feel for any celebs who stand up.)

And this just days after the NYTimes article. I don't really dare hope that even in deepest darkest USA they're starting to come to their senses.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:28

This is where it goes... Another Twitter user to Bette:

‘Other people are responding with more important and serious things to say, but I can't help but think about the fact that this woman would have gone through menopause around the 1980s and has lost not a single goddamn thing.’

The logic here is, we’re going to call women menstruators now, but you there, who used to be a menstruator, but now are old, you are something else. Something other than a menstruator.

Did there used to be a word for that?

musicalfrog · 05/07/2022 06:26

I really hope youngsters will see these messages and it makes them think twice about potential surgery.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:16

Twitter rage: ‘Like why the fuck you even care? Am I only a woman because of my parts? Is that what we’re limited to?’

Yes. I am only a woman because of my body. I have no essential womanliness other than my parts.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:00

For some reason, Adrian Comerford thinks Bette Midler has ‘lost her iconic status with one tweet’.

Who is AC again?

Conflictedunicorn · 05/07/2022 05:51

Who even is IW? Telling Macy Gray off FFS. When IW has the fame and clout Macy has, then IW can lecture people about trashing their careers. Does IW even present anything now, or just ramble on Twitter?

TheBiologyStupid · 05/07/2022 01:17

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

This!

dropthevipers · 05/07/2022 00:45

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

I dont think what Willoughby does can be described as a career, unless spouting wall to wall non stop bollocks now counts as a career.

Datun · 05/07/2022 00:44

Yep. Ban abortion, then tell women they're not allowed to describe who it affects.

I bet Macy are Bette are just the beginning.

GoodWeatherforDucks · 05/07/2022 00:30

It’s safe to say this tweet has blown up. 56.5K likes so far…

And Macy Gray too!

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

FannyCann · 04/07/2022 23:27

Is this the first major usa celeb to publicly come out as a full strength terf?
How wonderful. I've always liked Bette.

zen1 · 04/07/2022 23:25

I’m in awe of Macy’s plain speaking. Much respect to her and to Bette.

PearlClutch · 04/07/2022 23:09

WarriorN · 04/07/2022 22:17

This is a longer clip of what Macy said.

I'm quite boggling at how matter fact she is!

twitter.com/piersuncensored/status/1544039013631270912?s=21&t=ryIwXiGP96ALq1aU5OVMbg

Ah, that is lovely. Just down to earth and clear.

Also - Bette's tweet is on 52k likes.

achillestoes · 04/07/2022 23:03

@mrshoho

True things.

mrshoho · 04/07/2022 23:00

achillestoes · 04/07/2022 22:56

I’m actually hurting for IW.

'Willyboy is a talentless oik with a receding hairline and a face like a puffy slapped arse. Pay no mind.'

stolen from twitter but v funny 😄

Conflictedunicorn · 04/07/2022 22:59

Who’s that blonde woman IW uses as an avatar because I’m 100% certain that’s not the IW you get in real life. Has IW stolen someone’s pic?

achillestoes · 04/07/2022 22:56

I’m actually hurting for IW.

Bollindger · 04/07/2022 22:53

Lets be honest WE ALL KNOW the TWAW is a lie, 100% of us know this, if we put just Transwoman on an island with a load of Cis men, and came back in 100 years everyone on the Island would be Dead and there would be no children at all.
We do not have to live a biological lie, we may say the pronouns , but you can't make us believe it, Well done Bette,