Bette Midler

Bette started her career in gay clubs iirc. Has a huge gay following. This might embolden gay ppl who have been cowed into silence. Or guilt tripped.
Brava Divine Miss M .

I think it is. I can't think of another.

76k likes on Bette's tweet this morning.

I am hoping this is echoing the moment JKR stepped into the fray, but in the US.

I just hope other women follow suit. The ONLY way is to speak out about this in an assertive yet calm and sensitive way, as hard as that is sometimes when faced with so much aggression.

@nooboonoo

The Independent is a weird publication. I don’t think they’ve ever found a contrarian position they didn’t like.

Just seen how this is being reported (in The Independent).
Why do they report it like this? Imagine if the headlines said Bette tweets what most women are thinking but too afraid to say in public? Macy shows support for biology, fact and common sense?
Ffs. I was so happy to see the support flooding in last night and now I'm downright mad all over again.

We really do need to be saying ejaculators and testical owners more.

The meme, "Low, a man has entered to share his manly views" needs a re work....

Then, hilariously, beneath the tweet where Shappi ridicules the idea that everyday female language will ever be policed or erased, you have a he/him hopping on with this:

’Have you ever heard of this lovely word 'friends'? Or? classmates? Pals? Seems like there are more relevant signifiers for the event than people's body parts, birth status or gender assigned at birth.’

So, about that, Shappi...

The selective blindness of people like Shappi Khorsandi is mind boggling. Defending Verso Books saying “womb carriers” using the excuse that they’re “radical”.

Yes, Shappi, that there be the point flying over your head. Female erasure is a radical position - it’s extremist. That’s why we are resisting it now, before they get their own way and you do find yourself invited to a “womb carriers” struggle session (womb carriers won’t be allowed parties).

Really pleased that Mark ( huge account) Hamill has liked Bette’s post.

I’m also raising an eyebrow again at Shappi Khorsandi who is incensed re Roe vs Wade but also posted about the language around women, when she is a confirmed TWAW and is snarky/hostile towards anyone she perceives as a TERF.

I’m wondering if the Rod vs Wade decision has shocked some people into actually thinking… or rather hoping….

They have created a world where people are frightened to say what a woman is.

It's been incredible and terrifying to witness.
Well done to everyone brave enough to stand up and fight.

Hamill has dipped his toe in this issue before and backed down after the Twitter mob has come for him. Obviously he's somewhat gc but was frightened off last time. It will be interesting to see if he backs down this time or not because he will have known what to expect this time around.

Yay! Thank you so much to Bette and Macey! I went out for dinner with friends last month & the conversation turned to gender ID. Everybody went quiet, didn't say much, made noises about inclusion and being kind.

I thought what the hell I'm nailing my GC colours to the mast, I've known these people for almost 20 yrs. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, they're still talking to me.

However, I did make them consider what inclusivity actually meant. Did it mean there's a space for everyone at the table or did it mean one group had to forfeit their space to make space for a particular group? This is what high profile women like Bette & Macey are doing, shining light on the blind allegiance to gender ideology.

Lots of people dismiss scientology as made up, fictious pseudo religion, fantasy nonsense. Yet, people are willing to believe that gender reassignment surgery turns a man into an actual woman. No questions asked or critical thinking there at all. Just blind acceptance of Gender ideology as facts, end of.

The unravelling is quite satisfying.

They’re going down all over the world, Mr President.

Oh I did see him last night. I think he'd already booked her and she played? I actually think it was for pride.

Some chap who wanted her removed from a festival lineup. Has now protected his tweets for some strange reason.

*Hamil ffs!

Apparently Mark Hamid liked Bette's tweet and it's the end of days.

Yup: 'enjoy your erasure'.

If this doesn’t open people’s eyes to how women, even very famous, ones are treated when they say something that Jen don’t agree with, nothing will. The way both are being talked to is disgusting and it explains why a lot of women kept silent. Next time someone asks ‘where are the women standing up’. I’m going to point them to bettes thread, and to JKs thread.

Not sure who Macy is talking to here on twitter but here are two recent tweets:

there is no bigger admirer of lgbt community than your truly. it takes real balls to be honest about who you are. "woman" is a title that you earn and become. just like "man." there are plenty of females who aren't women yet and every girl gets that.

i wasn't defining trans women. just women. because i know what it means to be one. i don't know what it means to be a trans woman and never said i did. but that goes both ways.

They are like the child declaring that the emperor has no clothes. Awesome. Love them both.