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Bette Midler

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FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/07/2022 17:31

Just posted on Twitter. The usual suspects are all over the replies, obviously, so give her some support if you can—but there's a surprising amount of balance. Seems to me that the scales have finally started to tip.

It was always going to be sunlight.

---WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us “women” anymore; they call us “birthing people” or “menstruators”, and even “people with vaginas”!
Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!---

Bette Midler
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Soubriquet · 05/07/2022 13:16

I’m so glad that people are starting to wake up.

They are pushing the trans movement at the expense of women. Not men. Funny that.

Inclusure is not “vagina havers can sit at this table”
”it’s women and vagina havers can sit at this table”

If someone wants to identify themselves as a vagina haver, there you go. There’s your label.

If a trans woman wants to identify as a woman for the table, there you go. You’re validated.

Meanwhile, women in general also have their place.

TheWeeDonkey · 05/07/2022 12:44

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 08:43

They have created a world where people are frightened to say what a woman is.

It's been incredible and terrifying to witness.
Well done to everyone brave enough to stand up and fight.

Its a weird horseshoe effect isn't it? One side removeing women's autonomy, the other side removing women's ability to protest against it.

TheWeeDonkey · 05/07/2022 12:38

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

Is India feeling okay?

Datun · 05/07/2022 12:37

Jesus. They really are gibbering, aren't they.

It can't be long before this movement implodes. No one in their right mind, or anyone who needs to work, is going to align themselves with people like that.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/07/2022 12:30

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:00

AND YOU'RE ALL RUSSIAN BOTS!

In other news my 4 yr old has found Dennis and Gnasher on Cbbc and insists it's Dennis and Russia.

😂

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:08

She has some "I wish you would choke" posts.

The usual.

ResisterRex · 05/07/2022 12:08

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 11:05

The posh lads at Penis News are cross. 👇

Note how they will not repeat her words. I imagine in case any readers think "hold on, why can't women call themselves women?"

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:05

Live, being added to, thread detailing the abuse being levelled at Bette and Macy.

Macy apparently died today. And we are the fascists?

twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1544274283823767555?s=21&t=g-QDBRh7YL2wb-xHKdk5gA

dropthevipers · 05/07/2022 12:04

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

That's completely fucking unhinged-surely people have been sectioned for less? How come Willoughby is still walking among us?

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 12:01

That is one paranoid rant.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:00

AND YOU'RE ALL RUSSIAN BOTS!

In other news my 4 yr old has found Dennis and Gnasher on Cbbc and insists it's Dennis and Russia.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

Bette Midler
WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:51

🤣 loving Julian's rant no one can make any sense of!

Manderleyagain · 05/07/2022 11:46

I've looked in to whether bette has spoken before. Notvreally but she got into trouble for misgendering catling jenner in 2016. Some on twitter have not forgotten and didn't think her apology at the time was good enough.

She obviously stepped into it not realising that social mores had changed and some male ppl cannot be referred to as male.

DEAR FRIENDS @HRC , WHOM I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED. SORRY LAST TWEET OFFENDED. AN IDLE MUSING. I SEEM TO HAVE MISREAD THE TEMPER OF THE TIMES.

mobile.twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/767401119504961536

MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 05/07/2022 11:41

achillestoes
Twitter rage: ‘Like why the fuck you even care? Am I only a woman because of my parts? Is that what we’re limited to?’

this recurring excuse for an argument is amazing to me, coming from people who would call me a uterus haver.

nooboonoo
Just seen how this is being reported (in The Independent).
Why do they report it like this? Imagine if the headlines said Bette tweets what most women are thinking but too afraid to say in public? Macy shows support for biology, fact and common sense?

Ffs. I was so happy to see the support flooding in last night and now I'm downright mad all over again.

Being a bit out of the loop, I had to search online for Bette Midler to get more of an idea who she is- and found the related news boxes just a tad encouraging, compared to what I would have expected a year or so ago- note the scare quotes around "demonizing." Hopefully lots of people will be curious enough to check out what's getting called "demonization."

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Datun · 05/07/2022 11:16

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 11:05

The posh lads at Penis News are cross. 👇

It's quite something, isn't it, when women talking about the complete control of their own bodies by men, is described as anti male.

Because it is about males. It's not about transmen at all. It's about not allowing the word, or even the concept, of woman to be reliant on female biology.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 11:14

For people who think prejudiced dog whistles can only be heard by the prejudiced, they are remarkably proficient at detecting them.

Datun · 05/07/2022 11:13

FannyCann · 05/07/2022 10:46

I believe the Roe v Wade has alerted many people (women and men) to the fact that women are literally fighting for their lives and this is the most important issue for women in USA. And that means women. None of this creeping around the edges with anyone who identifies as a woman.

That is probably what has prompted Bette to come out so strongly and I hope other USA women will feel emboldened to follow suit. It's definitely the USA JKR moment.

I agree.

Banning abortion is unequivocally wrong in most peoples eyes. Removing the terms to describe the people who are affected by it is going to be seen as equally wrong.

Berating women for wanting to use those terms is going to be seen as entirely unacceptable.

We're watching the utter narcissistic self-centredness of transgenderism play out.

It's the Ricky Gervais sketch come to life.

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 11:07

The word "woman" aka an "anti trans dog whistle"

The day that stirring misogynistic rag folds will be a good day.

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 11:05

The posh lads at Penis News are cross. 👇

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NotBadConsidering · 05/07/2022 10:56

I agree I think that’s it. It’s likely a tipping point for many. People, women in particular, who would otherwise have been supportive, have looked at the fact that the TRAs can’t even let discussions around abortion go without making sure the gender woo gets incorporated and gone “they won’t even let us have THIS?! There is NOTHING they won’t appropriate for the gender woo cause?! Fuck this for a game of soldiers.”

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 10:53

I’ve seen tweets saying she ‘built her career on the backs of the LGBTQIA+ community’. No she didn’t. She has fans in that community. That doesn’t mean they did the work and it certainly doesn’t mean she owes them thought-loyalty.

Riptided · 05/07/2022 10:52

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FannyCann · 05/07/2022 10:46

I believe the Roe v Wade has alerted many people (women and men) to the fact that women are literally fighting for their lives and this is the most important issue for women in USA. And that means women. None of this creeping around the edges with anyone who identifies as a woman.

That is probably what has prompted Bette to come out so strongly and I hope other USA women will feel emboldened to follow suit. It's definitely the USA JKR moment.

RoyalCorgi · 05/07/2022 10:36

76k likes on Bette's tweet this morning.

That's revealing, isn't it? I'm fairly sure that the overwhelming majority of people agree with her, but most are too afraid to say so. The shrill minority are so aggressive, so nasty, so threatening that people feel frightened of them - yet their numbers are tiny.