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Single-sex lavatories to be mandatory in all new public buildings

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ChristinaXYZ · 03/07/2022 14:55

I really like the phrase “forced sharing” - I think we should use it more often as it sums up the lack of consent in shared facilities - unlike the neutral sounding 'gender neutral' .

Anyway, good news - I think this is building something that was initially announced by Robert Jenrick last year but got a bit lost after his demotion:

"New office buildings, schools, hospitals and entertainment venues must have separate male and female lavatories, ministers will declare this week, in a move to rein in the “forced sharing” of gender-neutral facilities.

The Telegraph understands that the Government will formally announce that it is acting to prevent non-residential buildings from being built solely with “universal” lavatories. The move will involve changes to building regulations and planning guidance.

The plans, being spearheaded by Kemi Badenoch, the equalities minister, were quietly approved by ministers last month after Mrs Badenoch was warned that some children were avoiding using lavatories at school because they only had access to gender-neutral facilities.

Mrs Badenoch has insisted that it is both legal and “important” to provide single-sex spaces for men and women."

If we could replace Boris with Kemi I'd be a very happy woman.

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/02/single-sex-lavatories-mandatory-new-public-buildings - Telegraph has excelled itself with coverage this last week or so.

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MishyJDI · 03/07/2022 16:29

Means little to trans women as they are protected under the EA2010 and will keep using the female facilities, GRA or not. So they will happily support as well. What it will result in is for more self gender or sexual policing by women who suspect other women of looking not female. Ouch for the butch lesbians and those who don’t fit a 1950s stereotype of women.

Hardly Progressive feminism….

334bu · 03/07/2022 16:20

I hope there's an exemption for small places like cafes otherwise they may simply not offer public facilities! (They don't have to if public are in the vicinity)

I don't think this would apply to premises which provide a single use toilet in a separate room for disabled and general use.
The problem is when toilet blocks are designated for mixed sex use.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/07/2022 16:03

this feels like progress (albeit progress that I thought we'd already made, but you know what I mean)

achillestoes · 03/07/2022 16:00

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

BJ needs to get his shit together (give up the booze and the one night stands, settle down, in a quiet little town...) or step aside for someone who can administrate better.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 03/07/2022 15:50

I am so pleased about this.

However, seeing as the Conservaties and Boris in particular are doing everything possible to ensure that they will never again be in government, I assume that as soon as we have a change of government, then this will just be reversed?

motogirl · 03/07/2022 15:31

I hope there's an exemption for small places like cafes otherwise they may simply not offer public facilities! (They don't have to if public are in the vicinity)

achillestoes · 03/07/2022 15:24

Does it mean use of the single sex exemptions, or are these ‘single gender’ facilities?

Datun · 03/07/2022 15:13

Yes, forced sharing is a good term, because it acknowledges that one is being compelled.

And it does it without necessarily stating who you're compelled to share with. It's implicit though.

FireFlyBoogaloo · 03/07/2022 15:10

I'd actually like to see Kemi as PM one day.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/07/2022 15:10

A bit of good news. And yes, I like the use of "forced sharing". We need to use more clear language that highlights the demands of born males to compulsory nudity for women, forced exposure, indecent exposure in front of unconsenting girls and women.
Let's nail this behaviour for what it is - the demands of males for the removal of women's privacy, safety and boundaries from said males.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/07/2022 15:02

This is pleasing.

Where possible, I would like this to be implemented for any future building works for public spaces where the facilities were converted to universal.

I would need to read if there is to be support for users who object to the breaching of the usual social contract about who uses which facilities in the context of self-ID. Otherwise, I can't see how this will attract observant women back to public places.

BootsAndRoots · 03/07/2022 15:00

Good, all women hate them and the vast majority of men hate them.